# Thread: relative clause

1. ## relative clause

Hello,

1)It is me who wants to talk to you.

2)It is me who want to talk to you.

3)It is you who wants to talk to her.

4)It is you who want to talk to her.

5)That man is me who wants to talk to you.

6)That man is me who want to talk to you.

7)It is I who is tired.

8)It is I who am tired.

Which are correct?

Thank you...

2. ## Re: relative clause

Originally Posted by lindadanca
Hello,

7)It is I who is tired.

8)It is I who am tired.

Which are correct?
***** NOT A TEACHER *****

(1) As I understand it, the really correct answer is:

It is I who is tired. That is: It (who is tired) is I.

BUT over the years, native speakers have decided that "who" belongs to

"I." Therefore, the correct answer nowadays is:

It is I who am tired. "Who am tired" is now analyzed as an adjective

clause modifying "I."

3. ## Re: relative clause

Thank you but I want to ensure of that.

4. ## Re: relative clause

Originally Posted by lindadanca
Thank you but I want to ensure of that.

Yes, you are correct: you should not accept an answer from a non-teacher such as I

until a teacher answers you.

5. ## Re: relative clause

Originally Posted by lindadanca
Thank you but I want to ensure of that.
***** NOT A TEACHER *****

(1) Do you know a book entitled Practical English Grammar by Michael Swan?

(a) Many of us learners find it very helpful.

(2) I found the answers in his book. (Remember: these are his answers, not mine!)

(3) VERY FORMAL (perfect English)

It is I who need your help. ("Need" matches "I." NOT: "needs.")

(4) VERY INFORMAL (the way many native speakers say it)

It is me that needs your help.

(5) Therefore, I think that we can safely say the correct answers are:

It is I who am tired.

It is me that is tired.

6. ## Re: relative clause

Originally Posted by TheParser
It is I who am tired.

It is me that is tired.
According to my experience

It's me who's tired.

is more common than either of the above. Does Swan mention the "who is" possiblity?

7. ## Re: relative clause

Originally Posted by birdeen's call
According to my experience

It's me who's tired.

is more common than either of the above. Does Swan mention the "who is" possiblity?

***** NOT A TEACHER *****

(1) I don't think that he does, but I am not sure.

(2) I, too, prefer "who," but I wanted to limit my answer to what an expert

like Mr. Swan said. The OP wanted an expert's opinion.

(3) If you find a reliable source that confirms the possibility of both

pronouns ("that" and "who"), please let us learners know.

THANK YOU

8. ## Re: relative clause

Originally Posted by birdeen's call
According to my experience

It's me who's tired.

is more common than either of the above. Does Swan mention the "who is" possiblity?

***** NOT A TEACHER *****

(1) I assume that we are talking about so-called cleft sentences:

Sue: I am tired.

Joe: Did you say Billy is tired?

Sue: No, I didn't. I said that it is I who am tired.

(2) Here is something I found from an expert at another helpline (published

in 2006):

It is me who/that does the washing every day. = I am the person who/that does ....

(3) I also read someone's opinion that even the great Professor Quirk does not

address the matter of "who" vs. "that."

(4) I did, however, read an amusing comment from one non-expert. His reasoning

is something like this:

(a) Perfect English is: It is I who am tired.

(b) Informal English is: It is me ____ is tired.

(a) His comment was that if you are going to be informal, why not go all the way?

That is, use "that" in the space. At least, you're being consistent!!!

9. ## Re: relative clause

Originally Posted by birdeen's call
According to my experience

It's me who's tired.

is more common than either of the above. Does Swan mention the "who is" possiblity?

***** NOT A TEACHER *****

UPDATE:

(1) I have exciting news!!!

(2) I found this in an earlier book (1973) that Professor Quirk co-authored with

Professor Greenbaum:

But 3rd person concord prevails (in informal English) where the objective case

pronoun me is used: It's me who's to blame.

(A Concise Grammar of Contemporary English, Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, Inc.)

10. ## Re: relative clause

Originally Posted by TheParser
***** NOT A TEACHER *****

UPDATE:

(1) I have exciting news!!!

(2) I found this in an earlier book (1973) that Professor Quirk co-authored with

Professor Greenbaum:

But 3rd person concord prevails (in informal English) where the objective case

pronoun me is used: It's me who's to blame.

(A Concise Grammar of Contemporary English, Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, Inc.)
It's good to have Professors Quirk and Greenbaum on your side!

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