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    singular or plural?

    I have a question about collective noun and would you check this sentence?

    'Now a team of ten internationally known architects have submitted designs ans strategies for creating a metropolitan area that will be known as "Grand Paris".

    As far as I know, team is collective noun and can be both of singular and plural. I think, by the structure, subject of the sentence is 'a team' which should be followed by 'has' not 'have'. I've asked 2 native speakers and both said 'have' sounds better here but none gave an answer to 'why', which I need to know.
    Can you give me clear answer to that ?

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    Re: singular or plural?

    Quote Originally Posted by finwing View Post
    I have a question about collective noun and would you check this sentence?

    'Now a team of ten internationally known architects have submitted designs ans strategies for creating a metropolitan area that will be known as "Grand Paris".

    As far as I know, team is collective noun and can be both of singular and plural. I think, by the structure, subject of the sentence is 'a team' which should be followed by 'has' not 'have'. I've asked 2 native speakers and both said 'have' sounds better here but none gave an answer to 'why', which I need to know.
    Can you give me clear answer to that ?

    ***** NOT A TEACHER *****


    (1) I cannot give you a clear answer, but I can you an answer.

    (2) I believe that you are 100% correct (at least in terms of American English).

    (3) The team has submitted plans. I assume that the team submitted the plans

    as a group. That is, the 10 architects did not individually submit 10 plans. The

    team submitted plans that represented the group's consensus.

    (4) Here is an example that many American teachers give:

    The jury has announced its decision. The jury have now returned to their

    respective homes.

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    Re: singular or plural?

    Quote Originally Posted by finwing View Post
    I have a question about collective noun and would you check this sentence?

    'Now a team of ten internationally known architects have submitted designs ans strategies for creating a metropolitan area that will be known as "Grand Paris".

    As far as I know, team is collective noun and can be both of singular and plural. I think, by the structure, subject of the sentence is 'a team' which should be followed by 'has' not 'have'. I've asked 2 native speakers and both said 'have' sounds better here but none gave an answer to 'why', which I need to know.
    Can you give me clear answer to that ?
    The 'team' consists of ten different architects who work independently of each other and submitted their design proposals on an individual basis rather than working together as a team effort. Presumably, the best design proposal would be adopted and the successful architect gets appointed for the job. When we refer to a group of individuals working separately, it is more appropriate to use the plural.

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    Last edited by tedtmc; 04-Sep-2011 at 02:02.

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    Re: singular or plural?

    Now, I see.
    Thanks a lot, both of you 'not teachers'!

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