being hit suddenly vs being suddenly

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"I felt being hit suddenly by somebody on the arm." OK?

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"I felt being suddenly hit by somebody on the arm." OK?
 

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"I felt being hit suddenly by somebody on the arm." OK?

OR

"I felt being suddenly hit by somebody on the arm." OK?
No, they are both wrong.
 

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No, they are both wrong.

How would you rephrase it "I felt that somebody hit me suddenly on the arm." using a complex object construction? "I felt being hit suddenly on the arm by somebody"? "I felt being hit suddenly on the arm "?
 
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How would you rephrase it "I felt that somebody hit me suddenly on the arm." using a complex object construction? "I felt being hit suddenly on the arm by somebody"? "I felt being hit suddenly on the arm "?

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(1) I am NOT answering your question about the placement of "suddenly." I shall leave that to our great teachers (and non-teachers).

(2) I just wanted to gently point out that (IMHO) there is a big difference between:

(a) I felt that somebody hit me.

(b) I felt somebody hit me.

(3) In (a) the verb means something like "think":

I was not sure, but I felt (thought) that somebody hit me when I was getting off the bus.

(4) In (b) the verb actually means your body felt a physical connection.

(i) I actually felt something physical. What? Somebody definitely hit my body.

(ii) I + felt + somebody [to] hit me. (The infinitive phrase "somebody [to] hit me"

is the object of "felt." We do NOT say or write the "to" in such sentences.)

(iii) In sentence (a), the grammar is quite different:

I + felt (thought/believed) + that (conjunction) + somebody hit me (noun clause). [ "hit" is the past of "hit.']

Usually, you do not need "that" to introduce a noun clause, but in your very

interesting sentence, you need it to show the difference in meaning between

sentence (a) and sentence (b).
 

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(1) I am NOT answering your question about the placement of "suddenly." I shall leave that to our great teachers (and non-teachers).

(2) I just wanted to gently point out that (IMHO) there is a big difference between:

(a) I felt that somebody hit me.

(b) I felt somebody hit me.

(3) In (a) the verb means something like "think":

I was not sure, but I felt (thought) that somebody hit me when I was getting off the bus.

(4) In (b) the verb actually means your body felt a physical connection.

(i) I actually felt something physical. What? Somebody definitely hit my body.

(ii) I + felt + somebody [to] hit me. (The infinitive phrase "somebody [to] hit me"

is the object of "felt." We do NOT say or write the "to" in such sentences.)

(iii) In sentence (a), the grammar is quite different:

I + felt (thought/believed) + that (conjunction) + somebody hit me (noun clause). [ "hit" is the past of "hit.']

Usually, you do not need "that" to introduce a noun clause, but in your very

interesting sentence, you need it to show the difference in meaning between

sentence (a) and sentence (b).

Could I say "I felt being hit ........;."?
 

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Could I say "I felt being hit ........;."?


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(1) I do not have the confidence to answer your question.

(2) Hopefully, someone will answer your question and also the one about the

proper position of "suddenly."
 

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(1) I do not have the confidence to answer your question.

(2) Hopefully, someone will answer your question and also the one about the

proper position of "suddenly."

So it would be what people might say but migh not be totally correct?
 

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So it would be what people might say but migh not be totally correct?


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(1) You are an excellent student, for you keep asking until you get a satisfactory answer.

(2) When I woke up this morning (it's now around 2 a.m. here in California), I ran to my computer to read the teachers' answers. Alas! Nothing! :cry:

(3) We non-teachers are warned not to offer answers unless we are pretty sure that we are correct. Since I am not pretty sure, I cannot say anything.
 
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"I suddenly felt somebody hit me on the arm." "It felt like somebody had suddenly hit me on the arm." "Suddenly, I felt a sensation like somebody hitting me on the arm."
These are all possible constructions, there are others, it depends what exactly you want to convey.
 

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As to the position of 'suddenly', I don't believe it matters (though, as Bhai said, both your sentences are wrong). And I don't think 'suddenly' collocates happily with 'hit'. If you 'suddenly felt yourself being hit on the arm', that would make sense; or you might 'become aware of being hit on the arm' (note that there's no need for 'yourself' here). You could also 'feel your arm being hit' or 'become aware of your arm being hit.'

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As to the position of 'suddenly', I don't believe it matters (though, as Bhai said, both your sentences are wrong). And I don't think 'suddenly' collocates happily with 'hit'. If you 'suddenly felt yourself being hit on the arm', that would make sense; or you might 'become aware of being hit on the arm' (note that there's no need for 'yourself' here). You could also 'feel your arm being hit' or 'become aware of your arm being hit.'

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1)I was given as part of my home assignment to paraphrase several sentences using a complex object construction. Getting back to post # 3, it's "I felt myself being hit on the arm."?

2) Do I need to use "myself" in the following sentence "I felt (myself) being shut in the arm"? Can I use the preposition "to" as in "shot to the arm"?
 
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1)I was given as part of my home assignment to paraphrase several sentences using a complex object construction. Getting back to post # 3, it's "I felt myself being hit on the arm."?

2) Do I need to use "myself" in the following sentence "I felt (myself) being shut in the arm"? Can I use the preposition "to" as in "shot to the arm"?
If you mean "I felt myself being shot to the arm", no.
 

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While we're on the subject of shots in the arm, one for the vocab book is 'a shot in the arm' - meaning inoculation.

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