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the Haiti-ans need to come to America.
Some people are all,What about
the strain on our resources?
Like, when I had this garden party
for my father's birthday, right?
I said RSVP because
it was a sit-down dinner.
But people came that,
like, did not RSVP,

what "come that" mean?
 

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the Haiti-ans need to come to America.
Some people are all,What about
the strain on our resources?
Like, when I had this garden party
for my father's birthday, right?
I said RSVP because
it was a sit-down dinner.
But people came that,
like, did not RSVP,

what "come that" mean?
"RSVP" is used as a verb here. Some people came. Those people did not RSVP. Not that I understand what the quoted text means...
 

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"RSVP" is used as a verb here. Some people came. Those people did not RSVP. Not that I understand what the quoted text means...
The Haitians need to come to America. Some people say, "What about
the strain on our resources?"
When I had a garden partyfor my father's birthday,
I said RSVP because it was a sit-down dinner.
But people came that did not RSVP.
Does that help, birdeen?
 

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The Haitians need to come to America. Some people say, "What about
the strain on our resources?"
When I had a garden partyfor my father's birthday,
I said RSVP because it was a sit-down dinner.
But people came that did not RSVP.
Does that help, birdeen?
Hi, bhai. I don't understand what Haitians' need to come to America has to do with strains on resources and garden parties... And I'm not really sure what the second "RSVP" means. I see it's a verb but the meaning is unclear. Is it

...that did not respond to my RSVP request?

or

...that habitually failed to respond to RSVPs?

or

...that did not send RSVPs?

or

...that did not understand the concept of RSVP?

or something else?
 

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RSVP is used a verb frequently here, simply meaning "to respond to an invitation."

Did you RSVP to Peter's wedding? = Did you send back the reply card?

They didn't RSVP = They did not let me know that they were coming (or let me know that they were not coming -- they just didn't let me know at all because they didn't respond at all).
 

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"came that" still doesn't make any sense to me.
 

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"came that" still doesn't make any sense to me.
"Came that" isn't supposed to make sense alone. It's not a phrase. Is the following clearer?

But people came who did not RSVP.

It's "people that/who did not RSVP" that's a phrase.
 

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what you have wrote it is just wrong, wouldn't it be "But people WHO CAME, did not RSVP." not "But people came who did not RSVP".?
 

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It's not wrong, it's just a little unusual.

Some children came who had not been invited.
Several birds appeared who had not been there earlier.
Many people cook who have never had a cookery lesson.
 

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what you have write it is just wrong, wouldn't it be "But people WHO CAME, did not RSVP." not "But people came who did not RSVP".?
No. Yours is a correct sentence (save for the comma, which is used incorrectly) but mine is fine too.

I think I have an idea where the confusion comes from. Usually the word "who" comes right after the noun in such structures, as in your sentence:

1) People who came did not RSVP.

"People" is a noun in this sentence and "who" comes right after it. This is the usual way. This is also the case in the following sentence (which we haven't yet discussed).

2) People who did not RSVP came.

It is also a correct sentence. As in the previous sentence, "who" comes right after the noun "people".

But sometimes, we use the construction you've encountered.

3) But people came who did not RSVP.

You may not believe me, but as you can see, native speakers who posted in this thread did not oppose this construction.

PS: Emsr2d2 was quicker than me. :)
 
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Sorry for my ignorance, it's because i had never seen it being used like that.
 

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Sorry for my ignorance,it's because i had never seen it being used like that.
No need to be sorry. The beauty of learning a language is that one can always discover new ways of saying things. Well, at any rate, I love this. :)
 
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good to hear it , thanks for all!
 
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