[Grammar] have a toothache, get toothache?

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Dear teachers,

Could you please tell me if it's true that we say 'if you eat too much, you will have a stomachache', but, 'if you eat too much, you will get stomachache'?

Similarly, is it true that we say 'have a backache', but 'get backache'?
'have a sore throat', but 'get sore throat', etc,?

Thank you!
 

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Dear teachers,

Could you please tell me if it's true that we say 'if you eat too much, you will have a stomachache', but, 'if you eat too much, you will get stomachache'?

Similarly, is it true that we say 'have a backache', but 'get backache'?
'have a sore throat', but 'get sore throat', etc,?

Thank you!
It's an interesting idea, which has the ring of something once taught (particularly by teachers who were fond of of this sort of byzantine and seemingly paradoxical rule). It doesn't seem to me to be true though, Just to take those two examples, the 'stomachache' ones work (though sometimes people will also say they have or get the stomachache'). But 'get sore throat' isn't normal (though there are many conditions you can 'get').

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Dear teachers,

Could you please tell me if it's true that we say 'if you eat too much, you will have a stomachache', but, 'if you eat too much, you will get stomachache'?

Similarly, is it true that we say 'have a backache', but 'get backache'?
'have a sore throat', but 'get sore throat', etc,?

Thank you!

Some typical statements in AmE:

(A) What's wrong? (B) I have a stomachache, a backache and a sore throat.
(A) Don't eat any more, you'll get a stomachache. (B) I know I'll get a stomachache, I had one yesterday.
(A) Don't lift that, you'll get a backache.
(A) Do you get a headache after exercise? OR Do you usually have a headache in the morning? (B) Yes, I get a headache after exercise and I usually have a headache in the morning.

In general, "have" for an existing condition or an inquiry about same; "get" for future possibility/probability or pre-existing condition.
 

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If I might address your thread title:

'I have toothache. I'm going to the dentist's.'

'When I eat ice cream I get toothache.'

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If I might address your thread title:

'I have toothache. I'm going to the dentist's.'

'When I eat ice cream I get toothache.'

Rover

"I have toothache" grates on me. I think most North Americans would say "I have a toothache."
 

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"I have toothache" grates on me. I think most North Americans would say "I have a toothache."

In BrE, we would omit the article.

I'm not going to work. I have terrible toothache.
I can't go to the party. I have stomach ache.
He is in bed with backache.
 

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and what if the leg hurts? is it leg pain?
 

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and what if the leg hurts? is it leg pain?

Yes, leg pain or a pain in my leg.

I should qualify my last post. We use the article with "headache" for some reason!

I'm not going to work. I have a terrible headache.
 

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"I have toothache" grates on me. I hope it's not as bad as a toothache. :-DI think most North Americans would say "I have a toothache."

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"I have toothache" grates on me. I think most North Americans would say "I have a toothache."

How about I've got toothache? That's what I'd use. ;-)
 

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And I'd say 'My tooth is giving me gyp'. But that's not much help! ;-)

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Do we use 'something gives me gyp' only when a part of our body is painful or can we say this if situations, memories or experiences are tormenting?

For example, are the following sentences possible?

"My slow Internet connection is always giving me gyp."
"The memories of my old relationship are giving me gyp." etc.

Thanks.
 

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And I'd say 'My tooth is giving me gyp'. But that's not much help! ;-)

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As an AmE speaker,"gyp" is new for me and I suspect for most/all Americans.
 

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Do we use 'something gives me gyp' only when a part of our body is painful or can we say this if situations, memories or experiences are tormenting?

For example, are the following sentences possible?

"My slow Internet connection is always giving me gyp."
"The memories of my old relationship are giving me gyp." etc.

Thanks.

They're OK to me.
 
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