Is it ours or us?

Status
Not open for further replies.

MYE_SUYAT

Member
Joined
Aug 10, 2011
Member Type
Student or Learner
Native Language
Tagalog
Home Country
Philippines
Current Location
Canada
Hi,

Pls. let me know which word (OURS/US) is correct to use in the following sentence and please insert commas where they should be inserted.

The group who is having a meeting at The Ritz Carlton on the same date as OURS or US is not comfortable with the idea of being with our group on the same floor.


Thank you.
 

White Hat

Banned
Joined
Aug 14, 2011
Member Type
Interested in Language
Native Language
Russian
Home Country
Russian Federation
Current Location
Russian Federation
The group having a meeting at The Ritz Carlton on the same date as WE is not comfortable with the idea of being on the same floor with our group.
 

bhaisahab

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Apr 12, 2008
Member Type
Retired English Teacher
Native Language
British English
Home Country
England
Current Location
Ireland
The group having a meeting at The Ritz Carlton on the same date as WE is not comfortable with the idea of being on the same floor with our group.
Nobody would say "we". Of the two, "us" would be more usual, but you will hear "ours".
 

White Hat

Banned
Joined
Aug 14, 2011
Member Type
Interested in Language
Native Language
Russian
Home Country
Russian Federation
Current Location
Russian Federation
Nobody would say "we". Of the two, "us" would be more usual, but you will hear "ours".

I meant "having it on the same date as we are".
 

Barb_D

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Mar 12, 2007
Member Type
Other
Native Language
American English
Home Country
United States
Current Location
United States
I'd use "ours" meaning "a meeting."

Your son was playing nicely with the others while ours were creating chaos.
Your groups is having a meeting on Tuesday, the day after ours.
 

White Hat

Banned
Joined
Aug 14, 2011
Member Type
Interested in Language
Native Language
Russian
Home Country
Russian Federation
Current Location
Russian Federation

Barb_D

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Mar 12, 2007
Member Type
Other
Native Language
American English
Home Country
United States
Current Location
United States
The original example used the noun "meeting" as the comparison, not the verb "meets."

They meet on the same day we do.
Their meetings are on the same day as ours.
 

White Hat

Banned
Joined
Aug 14, 2011
Member Type
Interested in Language
Native Language
Russian
Home Country
Russian Federation
Current Location
Russian Federation
The original example used the noun "meeting" as the comparison, not the verb "meets."

They meet on the same day we do.
Their meetings are on the same day as ours.

I understand that. Here we have "They are having a meeting on the same date as we are". Can we omit "are" after "we"? I hope you got it now, Barb_D.
 

Barb_D

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Mar 12, 2007
Member Type
Other
Native Language
American English
Home Country
United States
Current Location
United States
I'd delete the "as" not the "are."
 

White Hat

Banned
Joined
Aug 14, 2011
Member Type
Interested in Language
Native Language
Russian
Home Country
Russian Federation
Current Location
Russian Federation
Wouldn't the sentence look better this way:

The group having a meeting at The Ritz Carlton on the same date WE ARE
is not comfortable with the idea of being on the same floor with our group.

?
 

Barb_D

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Mar 12, 2007
Member Type
Other
Native Language
American English
Home Country
United States
Current Location
United States
There are myriad ways to write this and be gramatical. I personally don't like the "are is" next to each other.

And sometimes you just try to do too much with one sentence. And sometimes you can do it in one sentence, but you try to put too much heavy lifting on the noun phrase.

It's a matter of style. All of these get your point across. Another group -- there when we are -- don't want to be near us. The rest is just window dressing.

I would write something like this:
There is a group meeting at the Ritz Carlton on the same date we will be there, and they are not comfortable sharing a floor with us.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top