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    #11

    Re: None

    "Tdol:I use 'are' most of the time, 'is' formally."
    Does it seem to be a BrE rule?

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    #12

    Re: None

    Here's the answer: None is correct.

    But None is correct, aren't they?

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    #13

    Re: None

    NONE is correct!!! yeah!

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    #14

    Re: None

    Okay, now I am confused. Which is correct? None, is, or both? None of your answers are correct. None of your answers is correct. None of your answer is correct.????? Anybody?

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    #15

    Re: None

    Where I come from, none is not a contraction of not any. It's a contraction not one or no one and is singular.

    In the example above:

    :D None of the answers are correct.

    . . . the sentence's subject is none, not answers. This is where diagramming helps: None [of the answers] is correct.

    But informally, are is often used instead, and it's hard to object very strenuously. I lump none with words like media and data: whether it's plural or singular seems to be mostly a matter of preference these days.

    [I do have limits, though. They is not a substitute for he, she, or he or she!]
    Last edited by Charlie Bernstein; 01-Apr-2016 at 18:05.
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    #16

    Re: None

    Quote Originally Posted by bebe heart View Post
    Okay, now I am confused. Which is correct? None, is, or both? None of your answers are correct. None of your answers is correct. None of your answer is correct.????? Anybody?
    You'll see my opinion above. But have you looked it up yet? What did you find?
    I'm not a teacher. I speak American English. I've tutored writing at the University of Southern Maine and have done a good deal of copy editing and writing, occasionally for publication.

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    #17

    Re: None

    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Bernstein View Post
    Where I come from, none is not a contraction of not any. It's a contraction not one or no one and is singular.

    <SNIP>

    But informally, are is often used instead, and it's hard to object very strenuously.
    I don't agree. As many authorities have written, none can be singular or plural but plural is usually best. It's not a matter of formality but of appropriate usage. It follows the same pattern as zero, which is plural.

    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Bernstein View Post
    [I do have limits, though. They is not a substitute for he, she, or he or she!]
    If the singular they was good enough for Shakespeare and Jane Austen, it's good enough for me.
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    #18

    Re: None

    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    I don't agree. As many authorities have written, none can be singular or plural but plural is usually best. It's not a matter of formality but of appropriate usage. It follows the same pattern as zero, which is plural.
    None of your answers is/are correct.

    Consider also: If there are N answers, and none of them could be considered correct, that makes N altogether that are incorrect, so the plural (None of your answers are correct) should be right.

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    #19

    Re: None

    The singular is correct if "none" stands for "not one".

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    #20

    Re: None

    I'd go with IS. My trick is to answer just "None"

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