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    Berliner or a Berliner

    Hi , I know that proper nouns such as Berlin , Prague , London have zero article. But how about their derivatives - people living there ? Is an inhabitant of Berlin called Berliner or a Berliner ?

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    Re: Berliner or a Berliner

    a Berliner

    He is English. (adjective)
    He is an Englishman. (noun)

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    Re: Berliner or a Berliner

    Quote Originally Posted by atalanta View Post
    Hi , I know that proper nouns such as Berlin , Prague , London have zero article. But how about their derivatives - people living there ? Is an inhabitant of Berlin called Berliner or a Berliner ?
    "A Berliner" would actually mean a doughnut. :)

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    Re: Berliner or a Berliner

    Quote Originally Posted by nyota View Post
    "A Berliner" would actually mean a doughnut. :)
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    I am sure that you know about President Kennedy's 1963 trip to Berlin when he

    announced to the crowd: Ich Bin Ein Berliner. (I am a Berliner.)

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    Re: Berliner or a Berliner

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    I am sure that you know about President Kennedy's 1963 trip to Berlin when he

    announced to the crowd: Ich Bin Ein Berliner. (I am a Berliner.)
    That's exactly what I had in mind Parser. It also reminds me of one comedian who said it was fortunate President Kennedy hadn't done a tour of Germany - Ich bin ein Frankfurter, Ich bin ein Hamburger...
    Last edited by nyota; 26-Sep-2011 at 16:25.

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    Re: Berliner or a Berliner

    Quote Originally Posted by nyota View Post
    That's exactly what I had in mind Parser. It also reminds me of one comedian who said it was fortunate President Kennedy hadn't done a tour of Germany - Ich bin ein Frankfurter, Ich bin ein Hamburger...

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    That's nothing compared with what happened when President Carter visited

    Poland. His less-than-proficient interpreter changed one of the president's

    English sentences into Polish that meant something like: I want to have romantic

    relations with the Polish people.

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    Re: Berliner or a Berliner

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    That's nothing compared with what happened when President Carter visited

    Poland. His less-than-proficient interpreter changed one of the president's

    English sentences into Polish that meant something like: I want to have romantic

    relations with the Polish people.
    I didn't know that one , but I found more bloopers of the same interpreter: President Carter & Polish interpreter

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    Re: Berliner or a Berliner

    ...Tony Blair's effort some years ago during a news conference with French PM Lionel Jospin. Blair, who spoke French quite well, meant to say: ''I admire Lionel Jospin, although we have differing views.'' Unfortunately, his French apparently translated as: ''I desire Lionel Jospin in many different positions.''
    www.theage.com.au - PM Gives Speech To US Congress

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    #9

    Re: Berliner or a Berliner

    [QUOTE=nyota;804593]I didn't know that one


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    (1) Actually you did.

    (2) I paraphrased the first "blooper" that appears in your excellent link.

    (a) I was too modest and shy to repeat the exact words, so I tried to express

    the idea in a more delicate manner.

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    Re: Berliner or a Berliner


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    I read somewhere that most French people are quite amused when British people

    try to speak French.

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