There are languages that use infixes. English is not one of them. In any case, the o in philosophy is not an infix, and neither is the a in dialogue. In both cases, the syllable in question is part of the prefix.
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#1 22-Oct-2003, 10:46
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The other day, someone claimed, quite confidentally, that the 'o' in "Philosophy" is an infix, as welll as the 'a' in "dialogue". I remain unconvinced, and the grammar books I have consulted have not been any help.
I am hoping someone can help me out with this one. The heading "ask a teacher" is quite promising.
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#2 22-Oct-2003, 13:00
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#3 22-Oct-2003, 13:23Infixes are used in some slang expressions:
fan-bloody-tastic, but this is a rare example.
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#4 22-Oct-2003, 15:32Re: English
Made a mistake.
Please see my post below.
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#5 22-Oct-2003, 15:48Re: English
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Well, in Greek, the language from which they derived their original form, philo- and dia- were prefixes, not infixes:
Originally Posted by Nilesh
Philosophy: From Greek philo- , sophia (wisdom)
Dialogue: From Greek dia- through, legos speak
But, and here's something worth noting to your colleague, the Greek vowels represented by the symbols 'o' and 'a' were inserted, fixed in place (not infixed, which expresses a kind of affix), a looooong time ago, for ease of articulation. They're called epenthetic vowels. For example:
dia- before words starting with a consonant (e.g. dia-meter), and di- before words starting with a vowel (e.g. di-atom). We use this ancient rule today, albeit rarely, in coining new (scientific) words.
If that was the case with 'philosophy' and 'dialogue', which it may have been, but hard to tell given that there were many similar prefixes of 'phil-' and 'di-' in Greek, you should know that those vowels are frozen in place now, and no longer function as epenthetic vowels.
In short, they are not infixes. They are fixed in place (frozen in time), remnants of an Ease of Speech Process called Epenthesis: insert a vowel between two consonants, which is an active process today in all languages of the World-with the exception of dead languages, like Greek.
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#6 22-Oct-2003, 15:52I someone who speaks no Latin and less Greek, I'm very grateful for that.
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#7 22-Oct-2003, 16:03Oh, I don't speak either of the two myself. Took a bit in uni, though. The bit above, I looked it up in the "Dictionary of Current English (1998)", which come to think of it, isn't all that current now, is it? Originally Posted by tdol
I someone who speaks no Latin and less Greek, I'm very grateful for that.
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#8 22-Oct-2003, 17:00Re: English
Greek is a dead language? What language do the Greeks speak?They are fixed in place (frozen in time), remnants of an Ease of Speech Process called Epenthesis: insert a vowel between two consonants, which is an active process today in all languages of the World-with the exception of dead languages, like Greek.
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jwschangGuest#10 22-Oct-2003, 17:30Without insulting any Greeks, I guess the language of the d.... Originally Posted by Red5
