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    open or opened? welcome or welcomed?

    Hi! I have a problem with those...

    we're open
    or
    we're opened?

    you're welcome?

    I felt welcome
    or
    I feld welcomed?

    Thanks!

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    Re: open or opened? welcome or welcomed?

    Try,

    We're open.
    You're welcome.
    I felt welcome.

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    Re: open or opened? welcome or welcomed?

    Thanks a lot.

    So are "open" and "welcome" actually the correct past participle of the corresponding verbs? Do you actually say:

    "This bottle is open"
    "This door has been open"

    Is there any online resource to check further past participle of english verbs? Thanks again!

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    Re: open or opened? welcome or welcomed?

    You're welcome.

    There are some verbs that have adjectival forms that look exactly like the verb form. "open" and "welcome" are two examples.

    Adjective
    The door is open.
    You are welcome.

    Verb
    They open up at 6:00.
    We welcome you to the family.

    If a verb already has an adjectival form, then there's no need to use its past participle as an adjective.

    Do you actually say:

    "This bottle is open"
    "This door has been open"
    Yes. "open" functions as an adjective; e.g., the door has been open since this morning. "open" describes the state of the door. If it were, say, "This door has been opened", then "opened" functions as a past participle, as part of the verb, and it tell us that someone has opened the door.

    Is there any online resource to check further past participle of english verbs? Thanks again!
    Have you tried on-line dictionaries?

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    Re: open or opened? welcome or welcomed?

    Yes. "open" functions as an adjective; e.g., the door has been open since this morning. "open" describes the state of the door. If it were, say, "This door has been opened", then "opened" functions as a past participle, as part of the verb, and it tell us that someone has opened the door.
    Wow, a whole new world of the english language just...hum.... opened before my eyes! I never realized that open and welcome were also adjectives, hence the confusion. Thanks a lot.

    I use m-w.com but I'm not sure how to know about past tense and past participle. For example, under "welcome", the only information it has is:

    Inflected Form(s): wel·comed

    ... not sure if that always mean that both past and past participle are "welcomed"?

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    Re: open or opened? welcome or welcomed?

    "Inflected Form(s): wel·comed

    ... not sure if that always mean that both past and past participle are 'welcomed'?"

    That's exactly what it means!

    Jim welcomed our guests

    Jim has already welcomed our guests.

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    Re: open or opened? welcome or welcomed?

    In addition, Blue Frog, the word "inflect" comes from Latin flex-, meaning bend. An inflected word is bent, reshaped; e.g., open => opened.

    Also, try this on-line dictionary: http://www.dictionary.com/

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    Re: open or opened? welcome or welcomed?

    Alright. Thanks again for all your help.

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    Re: open or opened? welcome or welcomed?

    You're welcome.


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    Re: open or opened? welcome or welcomed?

    Thank you so much for the clarification.
    I suddenly had a doubt in the usage of 'open' or 'opened', in a sentence like "at which the bank accounts are yet to be open". I have used 'open'. Hope that is correct.

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