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    many times before...

    Hello,

    Please could you tell that when to use 'many times before and many times'.

    1-) I have been to Paris many times before. (It is ok)

    2-) I have been to Paris many times. (It is ok)

    3-) I went to Paris many times before.

    4-) I went to Paris many times.

    Can we use the sections 3 and 4 for past situations?
    Last edited by aysaa; 03-Dec-2011 at 22:12.

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    Re: many times before...

    3 doesn't work.
    4 sounds like your opportunity to go to Paris is now over.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: many times before...

    -I went to Paris too many times before ,but I am in London now.

    Can't we use 'many times before' with simple past tense?
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    #4

    Re: many times before...

    Please can you answer that? Can we use?

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    Re: many times before...

    Quote Originally Posted by aysaa View Post
    -I went to Paris too many times before ,but I am in London now.

    Can't we use 'many times before' with simple past tense?
    Not in this example.

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    Is it something in general, or everytime? Can't we use 'many times before' with the simple past tense? I m not talking about the example I gave.

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    #7

    Re: many times before...

    I can't make past simple work. You need present perfect.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    #8

    Re: many times before...

    Thanks for answering. I think I am confused because of the songs like 'this love' by 'Maroon 5'.

    This love has taken it's toll on me
    She said goodbye too many times before
    And her heart is breaking in front of me
    I have no choice 'cause I won't say goodbye anymore

    I think that is for spoken English, is that right?
    Last edited by aysaa; 05-Dec-2011 at 16:01.

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    Re: many times before...

    I have never written a document called "The 10 Most Important Rules for Learning English" but if I ever do, then one of them would be "Do not EVER use song lyrics as the basis for assuming anything is good English."

    She's said goodbye -- much closer to standard English.

    Lyricists choose words because of the rhyme or the rhythm, or other factors that are a mystery to me. It's why I write standard business English and not songs.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: many times before...

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    I have never written a document called "The 10 Most Important Rules for Learning English" but if I ever do, then one of them would be "Do not EVER use song lyrics as the basis for assuming anything is good English."
    I couldn't agree more.

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