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    Present perfect with superlatives

    Hi everyone! What's the difference between the following sentences:

    1. Jill is the most beautiful girl John has ever met.

    2. Jill was the most beautiful girl John has ever met.

    I think both sentences mean that John hasn't met anybody like Jill up till now.

    But I wonder if sentence 2 means Jill is dead?


    How about these ones:

    3. It is the most boring film I have ever seen.

    4. It was the most boring film I have ever seen.


    Thanks for your help!

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    Re: Present perfect with superlatives

    Quote Originally Posted by ronmecer View Post
    1. Jill is the most beautiful girl John has ever met.

    2. Jill was the most beautiful girl John has ever met.
    1. Jill is still part of the life of the speaker and/or John.
    2. Jill is no longer part of the lives of the speaker or of John. Since she left, John has not met a more beautiful girl.

    In #3, below, Jill is no longer part of John's life. It is possible that he has met a more beautiful girl since Jill left.

    3. Jill was the most beautiful girl John had ever met.

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    Re: Present perfect with superlatives

    Quote Originally Posted by 5jj View Post
    1. Jill is still part of the life of the speaker and/or John.
    2. Jill is no longer part of the lives of the speaker or of John. Since she left, John has not met a more beautiful girl.

    In #3, below, Jill is no longer part of John's life. It is possible that he has met a more beautiful girl since Jill left.

    3. Jill was the most beautiful girl John had ever met.
    Thanks! 5jj I have one more question
    Can I write this way?
    Jill has been the most beautiful girl John has ever met.

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    Re: Present perfect with superlatives

    The present perfect in the first part sounds really weird.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: Present perfect with superlatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    The present perfect in the first part sounds really weird.
    That was my first reaction.

    I have come back to it twenty minutes later with the thought that it might be possible:

    A: John has had a lot of girlfriends.
    B: Yes, and some of them have been pretty attractive. Do you remember Jill?
    C: Oh, yes! Jill has been the most beautiful girl John has ever met.


    I think that it is possible for someone to say this, though I think 'Jill was...' is far more likely. I don't recommend it.

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    Re: Present perfect with superlatives

    Quote Originally Posted by 5jj View Post
    1. Jill is still part of the life of the speaker and/or John.
    2. Jill is no longer part of the lives of the speaker or of John. Since she left, John has not met a more beautiful girl.

    In #3, below, Jill is no longer part of John's life. It is possible that he has met a more beautiful girl since Jill left.

    3. Jill was the most beautiful girl John had ever met.

    Hi 5jj Just to make sure I don't misunderstand it
    What do you exactly mean by "no longer part of lives" and "she left"?
    Does it mean "she is dead" or something else like:

    Jill and I broke up last week. She was the most beautiful girl I have ever met.

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    Re: Present perfect with superlatives

    Quote Originally Posted by ronmecer View Post
    Hi 5jj Just to make sure I don't misunderstand it
    What do you exactly mean by "no longer part of lives" and "she left"?
    Does it mean "she is dead" or something else like:
    Not a teacher
    Hi
    What is the meaning of I wanna be with you?
    It means(maybe), I want to live with you or something else like that.

    no longer part of lives in this phrase, generally, Mr. 5jj meant that she(Jill ) is not living
    with John any more. Maybe they broke up.

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