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    difference pronunciation between "flower" and "flour"

    Can u tell me if there's any difference in pronunciation between "flower" and "flour"?


    thank you

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    Re: difference pronunciation between "flower" and "flour"

    They're identical to me.

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    Re: difference pronunciation between "flower" and "flour"

    They are not identical.

    flower:

    flour:

    Notice the dot (.) in flower. It has longer sound at that point which makes
    the sound of flower as 2 syllables but only 1 syllable for the sound of flour.

    It's like:

    flower: ฟลาว-เอ้อ

    flour: ฟลาอาว (ฟลา-อาว without any pause)

    That's British pronounciation.
    Last edited by Tdol; 10-Nov-2005 at 05:24.

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    Re: difference pronunciation between "flower" and "flour"

    For American pronounciation, it's a bit different.

    flower:

    flour:

    It's like:

    flower: ฟลาว-เว่อ (with the distinct w (ว) sound in the last syllable AND distinct pause between w from the first syllable and w in the last syllable)

    flour: ฟลาเว่อ (ฟลา-เว่อ without any pause)
    Last edited by YTG; 07-Nov-2005 at 13:01.

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    Re: difference pronunciation between "flower" and "flour"

    whew...that's a relief. i was really starting to doubt myself the other day (when my co-teacher questioned my pronunciation of "flour" because i didn't pronounce it like "flower"). she said that maybe I was using "Filipino" pronunciation...which is kind of funny because I learned words like flour and flower when I was a kid and I wasn't living in the Philippines at that time.

    i know that for some (many?) people flour=flower-flour and it does make sense based on the etymology of flour. but some words have more than one acceptable pronunciation and i seem to be one of the few people who know of more than one acceptable pronunciation for "flour".

    it's probably a regional thing...some of my friends from new york and new jersey pronounce flour as flower. but i was taught (in maryland) that flower has a bit of a pause.

    Quote Originally Posted by YTG
    They are not identical.
    flower:

    flour:

    Notice the dot (.) in flower. It has longer sound at that point which makes
    the sound of flower as 2 syllables but only 1 syllable for the sound of flour.
    It's like:
    flower: ฟลาว-เอ้อ
    flour: ฟลาอาว (ฟลา-อาว without any pause)
    That's British pronounciation.

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    Re: difference pronunciation between "flower" and "flour"

    jenn21, what is your level? What dictionary are you using? I am guessing from your name that you are in university level. Well, if you are intermediate to advanced I strongly recommend you (and everyone):

    1. http://dictionary.cambridge.org/. I think it's the best. It got phonetic symbols for both British and American ways of pronounciation. It's web-based so you can look up vocabulary anywhere in the world.

    2. if you want to hear the real voice on computer, get the Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary CD-ROM:



    You can get the Book+CDROM version or CDROM-only version. I suggest you get the Book+CDROM as the prices are not much different. Trust me, it's gonna be a good investment. We are not taught to pronounce properly in school. This is our real weak point. Also we mix British and American pronounciation. In school, most use British pronounciation mixing with a bit of American. But in real life American influence is greater than British influence so you will find more of American pronounciation. Let me give you one or two example. We pronounce "class" as "คลาส" as in British but when you go to the cinema, you will hear "แคลส". We pronounce "grant" as "แกร๊นท" and most of us have no idea that's American way because in British way it's "กร๊านท" and we never hear that in school nor in real life unless you come to the UK or watch some UK films or TV.

    I am not advertising for Cambridge Press but this dictionary is gonna help you great deal. Again, trust me.

    For the CD-ROM, you have to use it on computer with Microsoft Windows 95, 98, ME, 2000 or XP (please note NT4 is not supported). Check the System Requirements page. Once you have familarised yourself with the phonetic symbols and the correct way of pronouncing them using the CD-ROM, you won't have any problem checking the http://dictionary.cambridge.org/ website for the meaning and correct pronounciation anywhere you go.

    Not only the real British and American voices you will hear from the CD-ROM, you can also hear your own voice! By recording your pronounciation and then listen to it as a way to practice your pronounciation!

    3. If you have some more money, get this Cambridge English Pronouncing Dictionary



    The difference to the Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary is that this one focuses on pronounciation only. There is no meaning of the words. But there are more words like names of places, people, etc. Also there is only British pronounciation sound. No American sound. But there is phonetic symbols for American pronounciation. I don't recommend it strongly but if you got some spare money you might like it.

    Contact Details: http://www.cambridge.org/asia/thailand/

    Don't forget to recommend others as well.
    Last edited by YTG; 07-Nov-2005 at 13:05.

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    Re: difference pronunciation between "flower" and "flour"

    I am a British speaker and I pronounce them exactly the same way, as do many. If you look at the origin, they are derived from the same source: http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/flour?view=uk
    Last edited by Tdol; 09-Nov-2005 at 02:50.

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    Re: difference pronunciation between "flower" and "flour"

    PS- I have put a poll up on the pronuciation: https://www.usingenglish.com/poll/530.html
    Give it a few days and the results should start coming in.

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    Re: difference pronunciation between "flower" and "flour"

    Here's a related poll:

    http://www.antimoon.com/forum/posts/4675.htm

    To me, "flower" and "flour" are homophones. I can't agree with the CALD (Cambridge . . . ) on this one. Is this a case of spelling makes pronunication? Seems like it.

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    Re: difference pronunciation between "flower" and "flour"

    This message has been deleted by Casiopea. Reason: duplicate
    Casiopea, did you delete one of my posts based on your belief that they were the same? Because the pictures were clearly different. Not to mention the difference in my explanation (British vs American).

    And what did you do with the phonetic symbols? They were on the same line. Now they aren't and it is hard to read.

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