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    Is it alright?

    Dear teachers!
    - We had had our car repaired by the mechanic whose telephone number you had given us, we continued our journey.
    Is it alright to use the past perfect tense twice in this sentence?

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    #2

    Re: Is it alright?

    Yes, but that's a run-on sentence. (And "all right" is two words, not one.)

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    #3

    Re: Is it alright?

    Quote Originally Posted by hoangkha View Post
    - We had had our car repaired by the mechanic whose telephone number you had given us, we continued our journey.
    Is it alright to use the past perfect tense twice in this sentence?

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    (1) I most respectfully suggest the first use of the past perfect in your sentence is

    either "wrong" or (at the very least) unnecessary.

    (2) The past perfect is usually used to describe something that happened before

    something else happened.

    (a) In your sentence, you had given us the mechanic's number on Monday.

    (b) Then, we had the car repaired on Tuesday.

    (3) Compare with this sentence:

    Why did we have our car repaired by a bad mechanic on Monday? Well, we had had

    it repaired on Monday before you told us on Tuesday about your good mechanic, so

    it was too late for us to take our car to your recommended mechanic.

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    #4

    Re: Is it alright?

    Quote Originally Posted by SoothingDave View Post
    Yes, but that's a run-on sentence. (And "all right" is two words, not one.)
    Thank Mr.SoothingDave!
    But all right = alright
    alright - Definition and pronunciation | Oxford Advanced Learners Dictionary at OxfordLearnersDictionaries.com

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    Re: Is it alright?

    From that link: "Some people consider that this form should not be used in formal writing."

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    #6

    Re: Is it alright?

    BTW, I agree with The Parser. There is no call for the past perfect in the first part of the sentence.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: Is it alright?

    Thank you all!
    My question comes from this sentence.
    - Having our car repaired by the mechanic whose telephone number you had given us,we continued our journey.
    The key is Having had our instead of Having our .
    Is the key incorrect then?

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    #8

    Re: Is it alright?

    You are now asking about a different sentence. The sentence you have now given is correct with 'having had' - but that's not past perfect.

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    Re: Is it alright?

    Quote Originally Posted by hoangkha View Post
    Thank you all!
    My question comes from this sentence.
    - Having our car repaired by the mechanic whose telephone number you had given us,we continued our journey.
    The key is Having had our instead of Having our .
    Is the key incorrect then?
    Why didn't you post the full, correct sentence in the first post?

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    Re: Is it alright?

    I can't understand.
    I have been taught that
    Ex:
    a- We had had our car repaired by the mechanic whose telephone number you had given us, we continued our journey.(In your opinions, it is incorrect)
    reduced

    b- Having had our car repaired by the mechanic whose telephone number you had given us, we continued our journey.

    and we can use presen participle instead of perfect participle to indicate the first act if it and the second one happened successively.
    - Having had enough, he left the table.= Having enough, he left the table.
    but if the first happened for a long time before the second , perfect participle must be used
    - Having failed twice, he didn't want to try again.
    So I think it should be
    c- We had our car repaired by the mechanic whose telephone number you had given us, we continued our journey.
    reduced
    d- Having our car repaired by the mechanic whose telephone number you had given us, we continued our journey.
    because "We had our car repaired " and "we continued our journey" happened successively. Besides, we also need to distinguish between "We had our car repaired " and "whose telephone number you had given us".
    and I think D is also reasonable.

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