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    Is it permission of/from?

    Hello,

    An English friend of mine doesn't know the answer to this, so I decided to join you here and ask. When you credit for instance a photographer using the following sentence, which is better?

    "With kind permission of the artist" or
    "With kind permission from the artist"

    And why? I've seen both forms used many times by what you'd think are writers who should know.

    Many thanks in advance for the help.

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    Re: Is it permission of/from?

    Quote Originally Posted by hannyvanarkel View Post
    Hello,

    An English friend of mine doesn't know the answer to this, so I decided to join you here and ask. When you credit for instance a photographer using the following sentence, which is better?

    "With kind permission of the artist" or
    "With kind permission from the artist"

    And why? I've seen both forms used many times by what you'd think are writers who should know.

    Many thanks in advance for the help.
    They both seem OK to me. I would most probably use the first one.

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    Re: Is it permission of/from?

    And may I ask why you'd go for the first one, if both are OK? Just wondering.. :)

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    Re: Is it permission of/from?

    [QUOTE=hannyvanarkel;839992]

    "With kind permission of the artist"


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    (1) I, too, wanted to know the answer, so I did some googling.

    (2) It seems that "from" is preferred in regular everyday situations:

    He needed permission from his boss to do that.

    (3) But "by kind permission of" is very formal. (Only my note: It seems to

    be almost a set phrase.)

    The paintings are reproduced by kind permission of the National Gallery.

    Credit: both sentences from the highly reliable Longman Dictionary (Web).

    (4) And here are three examples (among many) from Google Books:

    Reprinted by permission of the author.
    With the kind permission of Oxford University Press.
    By permission of Her Majesty the Queen

    (5) As the moderator told us, "of" seems the more appropriate in your particular sentence.

    (6) Thanks for your question. It really clarified the matter for me.

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    Re: Is it permission of/from?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheParser View Post
    (6) Thanks for your question. It really clarified the matter for me.
    Thanks for yours; likewise! Google didn't give me those answers, but anyway, they make sense. :)

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    Re: Is it permission of/from?

    Quote Originally Posted by hannyvanarkel View Post
    Hello,

    An English friend of mine doesn't know the answer to this, so I decided to join you here and ask. When you credit for instance a photographer using the following sentence, which is better?

    "With kind permission of the artist" or
    "With kind permission from the artist"

    And why? I've seen both forms used many times by what you'd think are writers who should know.

    Many thanks in advance for the help.
    One obtains permission from someone.
    But acknowledgements require 'of'.

    I obtained permission from the artist to display his work.
    The work was displayed with the kind permission of the artist.

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    Re: Is it permission of/from?

    Quote Originally Posted by RobMasters View Post
    One obtains permission from someone.
    But acknowledgements require 'of'.
    I feel that "I obtained permission of the artist to display his work" is possible, if rather stuffy.

    'With permission from" has 226 citations in COCA - though "with kind permission from" has only one, and "with the kind permission from" none.

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    #8

    Re: Is it permission of/from?

    I would use "with the permission of" or "with permission from."

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    Re: Is it permission of/from?

    Thanks everyone. So it wasn't very straightforward then.. Anyways, you're great! :)

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    Re: Is it permission of/from?

    Quote Originally Posted by 5jj View Post
    I feel that "I obtained permission of the artist to display his work" is possible, if rather stuffy.

    'With permission from" has 226 citations in COCA - though "with kind permission from" has only one, and "with the kind permission from" none.
    "I obtained the permission of the artist" would be more precise but, as you point out, stuffy and over-formal.
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