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    Question turn vs. turn (in)to

    Hi, I'm wondering if the following sentence is correct:

    "You and me just turned 'we'."

    It's used in a poetical context and should express that two separate individuals (you and me) have now become one (we), e.g. as lovers or friends.

    I'd like to know if
    a) it gets the meaning across, i.e. a construct like this works at all,
    b) if so, the verb "turn" can be used as above without a preposition or if it requires "to" or "into".

    Generally, when using "turn" in the sense of "become" in conjunction with another noun, I'm not really sure when to use "to" or "into" after it (or no preposition at all):

    "Your kingdom will turn to ashes."
    "Foes turned friends."
    "The evening turned into a nightmare."


    They all sound okay to me but I'm not able to deduce any rules on when to use which preposition. Any advice on that would be very helpful as well.

    Many thanks!

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    #2

    Re: turn vs. turn (in)to

    Quote Originally Posted by haiduc View Post
    Hi, I'm wondering if the following sentence is correct:

    "You and me just turned 'we'."

    It's used in a poetical context and should express that two separate individuals (you and me) have now become one (we), e.g. as lovers or friends.

    I'd like to know if
    a) it gets the meaning across, i.e. a construct like this works at all, It doesn't work for me, "became" would work.
    b) if so, the verb "turn" can be used as above without a preposition or if it requires "to" or "into".

    Generally, when using "turn" in the sense of "become" in conjunction with another noun, I'm not really sure when to use "to" or "into" after it (or no preposition at all):

    "Your kingdom will turn to ashes."
    "Foes turned into friends."
    "The evening turned into a nightmare."


    They all sound okay to me but I'm not able to deduce any rules on when to use which preposition. Any advice on that would be very helpful as well.

    Many thanks!
    Bhai.

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    #3

    Re: turn vs. turn (in)to

    Leaving all poetic sentiment aside, it actually is NOT correct grammatically.

    You and I ==> We
    You and me ==> Us

    But such things are not important in a poetic setting.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    #4

    Re: turn vs. turn (in)to

    "Turned into" is the choice I would make.

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    #5

    Re: turn vs. turn (in)to

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    Bhai.
    Thank you! :)

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    #6

    Re: turn vs. turn (in)to

    Quote Originally Posted by SoothingDave View Post
    "Turned into" is the choice I would make.
    Thanks!

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    #7

    Re: turn vs. turn (in)to

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    Leaving all poetic sentiment aside, it actually is NOT correct grammatically.

    You and I ==> We
    You and me ==> Us
    I suppose it could be possible with inverted commas:
    "You and I" turned into "we". If we use a present perfect form, which would be more natural with 'just' for many speakers of BrE, this would require a singular verb: "You and I" has just turned into "we".

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