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    #1

    Correcting broken English

    The following 3 examples are the corrections of Konglish(Korean style English), and I wonder if the corrections are all correct. We say "starting member" for the inital players of a soccer team. We say to encourage or cheer for a player "fighting" which is really awkward in English. We say "goal ceremony" for any kind of gesture by a player after scoring a goal.

    Ji-hun : Is JI-sung Park a starting member? (=> starting lineup or lineup)
    Bora:Yes, he is doing well, Ji-sung, fighting! (=> go!)
    Ji-hun:Wow! Did you see? It was great goal!
    Bora :Haha! his goal ceremony is very funny! (=>goal celebration)

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    #2

    Re: Correcting broken English

    We don't say 'starting member'. 'Is Ji-sung Park starting?' 'Is he in the starting line-up?' 'Is he in the starting eleven?

    If he's fighting he'll get sent off. We say 'he's trying hard/working hard/giving 100%'.

    It's goal celebration - not ceremony.

    Rover
    Last edited by Rover_KE; 15-Jan-2012 at 10:20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rover_KE View Post
    We don't say 'starting member'. 'Is Ji-sung Park starting?' 'Is he in the starting line-up?' 'Is he in the starting eleven?

    If he's fighting he'll get sent off. We say 'he's trying hard/working hard/giving 100%'.

    It's goal celebration - not ceremony.

    Rover
    When you shout at the players to cheer them up, what do you say?
    "Go" or "Go for it!"?

    ex) If he's fighting he'll get sent off. We say 'he's trying hard/working hard/giving 100%'.

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    #4

    Re: Correcting broken English

    You shout 'Come on, Park!'

    'Shoot, Park!'

    'Pass!'

    'Get stuck in!'

    Rover

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    Re: Correcting broken English

    Quote Originally Posted by Rover_KE View Post
    You shout 'Come on, Park!'

    'Shoot, Park!'

    'Pass!'

    'Get stuck in!'

    Rover
    I don't know what "go" or "go for it" is used for, maybe it's a Korean-made one.

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    Re: Correcting broken English

    In the US, we use the word "starter" to mean a player who is on the starting squad.

    He's a four-year starter = He was good enough to be on the starting group all four years of school.

    I made the team. I know I won't be a starter, but I made the team! = You are happy to have been made part of the team, even though you know there are others who are better than you who will play first.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keannu View Post
    I don't know what "go" or "go for it" is used for, maybe it's a Korean-made one.
    In BrE, go for it can be used, especially when there's a real chance of scoring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    In BrE, go for it can be used, especially when there's a real chance of scoring.
    My workbook says native speakers use "go" when cheering for players, Is it true?

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    Re: Correcting broken English

    Here we do.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    #10

    Re: Correcting broken English

    Quote Originally Posted by keannu View Post
    My workbook says native speakers use "go" when cheering for players, Is it true?
    In BrE, it's not as common. We tend to shout "Come on" then the name of the team or the player we are supporting.

    At tennis matches, I have regularly shouted "Come on Rafa" or "Come on Nadal".

    In AmE, I have heard "Go Lakers!" and similar. That is more similar to the European language versions. In Spanish, players and fans shout "Vamos!" (Let's go) and in French "Allez!" (Go!)

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