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    #1

    most of the + noun/ most of + noun

    I helped a friend of mine with his essay. He told me that he only had one mistake, here is the excerpt:

    "... because most accidents happen during the winter..."

    His teacher added "of":

    "... because most of accidents happen during the winter..."

    I don't know if that's possible. If it is, it cannot be very common.

    I don't think I have ever heard it without "the":

    "... because most of the accidents happen during the winter..."

    I know that the construction "most of + noun" is possible, but is it correct in this particular context?

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    #2

    Re: most of the + noun/ most of + noun

    "most accidents" or "most of the accidents" are both okay but not "most of accidents"

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    #3

    Re: most of the + noun/ most of + noun

    "... because most accidents happen during the winter..." is perfectly correct and it's quite wrong to add of.

    You can say "... because most of the accidents happen during the winter..." if you are referring to specific accidents mentioned earlier.

    I know that the construction "most of + noun" is possible. . .
    Is it? I'm struggling to make up a sentence with that construction.

    Rover

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rover_KE View Post
    Is it? I'm struggling to make up a sentence with that construction.
    I'm glad you said that. I thought I was missing something embarrassingly obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5jj View Post
    I'm glad you said that. I thought I was missing something embarrassingly obvious.
    Me too.

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    Re: most of the + noun/ most of + noun

    Needless to say, I was obviously wrong. When I wrote that I was probably thinking about pronouns. But I also found "most of America", "most of society", "most of Congress".

    Edit: Smilie removed.
    Last edited by SirGod; 21-Jan-2012 at 23:45.

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    Re: most of the + noun/ most of + noun

    Quote Originally Posted by SirGod View Post
    Needless to say, I was obviously wrong. When I wrote that I was probably thinking about pronouns. But I also found "most of America", "most of society", "most of Congress".
    No, you were not obviously wrong, as your findings prove. So, remove the .

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    Re: most of the + noun/ most of + noun

    Quote Originally Posted by SirGod View Post
    Needless to say, I was obviously wrong. When I wrote that I was probably thinking about pronouns. But I also found "most of America", "most of society", "most of Congress".
    Well doesn't that make you right? What's the point of coming up with examples that prove your claim, and simultaneously saying that you were obviously wrong.

    In fact, the problem lies in a technicality. Your claim: "I know that the construction "most of + noun" is possible" is ambiguous. Most nouns do not allow "most of" to come directly before them. But strictly, yes, it is possible to make a grammatical construction with "most of" + a noun, as you've shown.

    I'd have to award you the point.

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    Re: most of the + noun/ most of + noun

    Yes, now I am really embarrassed, I don't really know why I wrote it that way, I was confused. Maybe just because I wasn't sure about it (maybe there was something wrong with the examples, something that is beyond my ken).

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    Re: most of the + noun/ most of + noun

    Quote Originally Posted by SirGod View Post
    Yes, now I am really embarrassed.
    SirGod, stop being embarrassed. You were aware of something that some of us had forgotten. So, one point for knowing it, a second point for knowing it as a non-native speaker, and a third point because we couldn't think of it. Award yourself a pat on the back.

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