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    present perfect +past simple

    Could I use the present perfect and the past simple as in "Since there's been no internet access,I couldn't get online." ?

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    Re: present perfect +past simple

    Quote Originally Posted by ostap77 View Post
    Could I use the present perfect and the past simple as in "Since there's been no internet access,I couldn't get online." ?
    Yes.

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    Re: present perfect +past simple

    Present Perfect tells us that there is still no access to the internet? If not, what else does it tell us?

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    Re: present perfect +past simple

    Quote Originally Posted by spongie View Post
    Present Perfect tells us that there is still no access to the internet? If not, what else does it tell us?
    What if there's internet access now but I used the present perfect instead of the past simple to extend a point in the past to the moment of speaking and emphasize that there was no internet access. Or does it mean that there's still no internet access?

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    Re: present perfect +past simple

    Quote Originally Posted by ostap77 View Post
    What if there's internet access now but I used the present perfect instead of the past simple to extend a point in the past to the moment of speaking and emphasize that there was no internet access.
    I think it is possible to use past simple instead of present perfect but then the sentence would meant that there was no access to the internet in the past. Present Perfect suggests that there is still no access, this tense has its reference to the present.

    Quote Originally Posted by ostap77 View Post
    Or does it mean that there's still no internet access?
    As I wrote above, I believe that there is still no internet access, but I'm not exactly sure about it.

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    Re: present perfect +past simple

    Quote Originally Posted by spongie View Post
    I think it is possible to use past simple instead of present perfect but then the sentence would meant that there was no access to the internet in the past. Present Perfect suggests that there is still no access, this tense has its reference to the present.



    As I wrote above, I believe that there is still no internet access, but I'm not exactly sure about it.
    Why would you be saying that there is still no access?

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    Re: present perfect +past simple

    Quote Originally Posted by ostap77 View Post
    Could I use the present perfect and the past simple as in "Since there's been no internet access,I couldn't get online." ?
    Is 'since' used 'to give the reason for something' or 'from a particular time or event in the past until the present, or in that period of time' in this case?

    Thanks...

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    I believe that "since" states the reason because after that there is the result = "I couldn't get online".

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    Quote Originally Posted by spongie View Post
    I believe that "since" states the reason because after that there is the result = "I couldn't get online".
    If I say "Since I've been in France,I could speak French fluently.",would you say that I'm still in France? I suggest we wait for an answer from teachers.
    Last edited by ostap77; 31-Jan-2012 at 21:16.

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    Re: present perfect +past simple

    Good question ostap77.
    "Since I've been in France,I could speak French fluently." = Present Perfect is also used to express the things that we experienced (like visiting France, as you wrote). It doesn't mean that this person is still in France.

    I'm also waiting for the teachers' intervention to clear this up.

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