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    Killer cured, then executed

    Dear Forum Users,

    Look at this irony:


    Killer cured, then executed
    Joliet, Illinois – George DelVecchio, a 47-year-old
    child-killer who underwent surgery earlier this month to relieve a heart condition,
    was executed by lethal injection early yesterday, prison authorities said.
    He underwent an angioplasty to clear a blocked artery after a heart attack late
    last month. (
    The Independent, 23rd November 1995)


    In this situational irony two norms clash: curing people and capital punishment. I am looking for the right English terminology:


    1. societal norms vs. jurisdictional? norms
    2. health care norms? vs. jurisdictional? norms

    Could anyone please help me with this?


    Thank you.


    Csika


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    Re: Killer cured, then executed

    It's ironic, indeed. However, I believe it's considered "cruel and unusual punishment" to deny someone needed medical care, even if they won't live vey long after receiving it.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: Killer cured, then executed

    I'm happy with either 'health-care' or 'societal' - they mean different things, but they both work.

    But I wonder why in each case you have 'jurisdictional norms' - as if you were convinced it was good. There are, for example, different jurisdictional norms in Alaska and Louisiana - because they're different jurisdictions. I don't think this is the sort of norm you mean. I'd use 'legal' or 'juridical'. There's a feeling - to be strenuously resisted - that wherever the law is involved you have to use long words, regardless of their meaning.

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    Re: Killer cured, then executed

    Hi!

    Don't you think the 'societal - juridical' pairing would sound awkward (repetitive), since society already includes jurisdiction? Just asking ...

    Csika

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    Re: Killer cured, then executed

    If anything, you have a conflict between the practice of medicine and the practice of jurisprudence. As Barb noted, you can't let prisoners go without needed medical care.

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    Re: Killer cured, then executed

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    I'm not convinced "norms" is what you want here. Perhaps "standards" or maybe "precidence"?

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    Re: Killer cured, then executed

    Quote Originally Posted by Csika View Post
    In this situational irony two norms clash: curing people and capital punishment. I am looking for the right English terminology:
    I am not so sure that they do clash here- I remember reading somewhere that a person has a medical check to ensure they are reasonably fit and healthy because they cannot be executed if they are very ill.

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    Re: Killer cured, then executed

    Thank you for all the replies.

    Csika

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