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    #1

    Including me

    I have brought very tricky sentences for me not to easily analyze, so I seriously need your help.

    1. Including me, 5 men like you.

    2. 5 men, including me, like you

    3. 5 men including me like you.

    I think the meaning of #1, 2 is the same but the meaning of #3 is kind of different because "5 men including me" implies there is another group of men not including me.

    If the way I understood this is wrong, I will fall into confusion again, so I really need your help with some explanations.


    Come to think of it...The meaning of all is the same. Could you just tell me any opinions anytime.
    Last edited by sky3120; 10-Feb-2012 at 11:36.

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    #2

    Re: Including me

    #3 doesn't work for me grammatically.
    I agree that #1 and #2 mean the same thing.

    If you want to say something along the lines of what you thought #3 meant, you'd have to use more words. One way to say this could be I am part of a group of five men who like you. (I don't know the feelings of the other men who will be voting.)

    As a matter of style, when a number starts a sentence, write it out. Five men, including me, like you. Also as a matter of style, numbers under ten are often written out as well, even when they don't start the sentence.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    #3

    Re: Including me

    I forgot to say "thank you". I totally agree with you now. Thanks again.

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