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    wish clauses

    Hello,

    Could you tell me whether we can use 'would' with all the stative verbs while using 'wish clauses'?

    -I wish you would want to be a doctor.

    -I wish Real Madrid would be the champion this year.

    -I wish she'd be quiet.

    Thanks...
    Last edited by aysaa; 14-Feb-2012 at 20:25.

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    Re: wish clauses

    Quote Originally Posted by aysaa View Post
    Hello,

    Could you tell me whether we can use 'would' with all the stative verbs while using 'wish clauses'?

    -I wish you would want to be a doctor.

    -I wish Real Madrid would be the champion this year.

    -I wish she'd be quiet.

    Thanks...
    The short answer is, no we can't.
    Edit: I missed the third example, which is fine. I read the post too quickly. Sorry.
    Last edited by bhaisahab; 15-Feb-2012 at 10:07. Reason: To correct a stupid mistake.

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    Re: wish clauses

    Thanks for the answer...

    1) "Would have" expresses dissatisfaction and emphasizes someone's unwillingness to do something.

    -She wishes the store would have had the shoe in her size. (She is unhappy they are unwilling or have chosen not to restock or carry her size.)

    -I wish you would have let me know.(I am displeased you were unwilling to communicate.)

    I think we can use stative verbs with 'would have Ving', is that right?

    2) -I wish I /she/ he was home in my country.

    -I know we use generally 'were', but I want to ask whether we can use 'was' in this case or not.

    3) -I wish I was/were able to go with you.

    Can we use 'was/were able to' instead of 'could' in this case?

    Thanks...

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    Re: wish clauses

    Quote Originally Posted by aysaa View Post
    1) "Would have" expresses dissatisfaction and emphasizes someone's unwillingness to do something. Who told you that?

    -She wishes the store would have had the shoe in her size. X (She is unhappy they are unwilling or have chosen not to restock or carry her size.) She wishes the store would re-order/carry her size.

    -I wish you would have let me know. X (I am displeased you were unwilling to communicate.) I wish you had let me know.

    I think we can use stative verbs with 'would have Ving', is that right? If you think so, give us an example, and we'll see.

    2) -I wish I /she/ he was home in my country.

    -I know we use generally 'were', but I want to ask whether we can use 'was' in this case or not. Many people do. I trust that you realise that you are regretting the present absence of 'I/she/he' from home.

    3) -I wish I was/were able to go with you.

    Can we use 'was/were able to' instead of 'could' in this case? Yes
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    Re: wish clauses

    Thanks...

    Wishes: expressing wishes and regrets

    I saw that in this page. Could you please check it out?

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    Re: wish clauses

    Quote Originally Posted by aysaa View Post
    Thanks...

    Wishes: expressing wishes and regrets

    I saw that in this page. Could you please check it out?
    Personally, I think "I wish you would have remembered to take the dog out for a walk" sounds very unnatural.

    I would say "I wish you had remembered to take the dog out for a walk".

    It's possible this is another AmE vs BrE difference.

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    Re: wish clauses

    BNC has 51 'I wish (pronoun) had (V-en)' citations, and only 2 'I wish (pronoun) would have (V-en)' citations.

    In other words, you will hear/see "I wish you had remembered to take the dog out for a walk" 25 times as often as you will hear/see "I wish you would have remembered to take the dog out for a walk" in BrE.

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    Re: wish clauses

    Thanks for all the answers, but I have been really confused about it because of the internet pages. I often have seen the sentences such as 'Would -future - I wish you would be quiet. (= Your talking irritates me.)'
    But some internet pages and you say that we can't use stative verbs with 'would'.

    I wish, if only - English
    Last edited by aysaa; 15-Feb-2012 at 09:42.

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    Re: wish clauses

    Quote Originally Posted by aysaa View Post
    Thanks for all the answers, but I have been really confused about it because of the internet pages. I often have seen the sentences such as 'Would -future - I wish you would be quiet. (= Your talking irritates me.)'
    But some internet pages and you say that we can't use stative verbs with 'would'.
    This is one of the problems that crop up with labelling. In my opinion, there are no such things as 'stative verbs; there are many simply verbs which are used mainly statively. BE, normally used statively, can be used dynamically with a meaning similar to 'behave':

    He is being good at the moment. / He is behaving well at the moment.
    I wish you would be quiet. / I wish you would make less noise.

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    Re: wish clauses

    Quote Originally Posted by aysaa View Post
    Hello,


    -I wish she'd be quiet.
    This example is acceptable, since 'be' here functions dynamically (cf. She is being quiet at the moment.)

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