Is this sentence grammartical correct?

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From:He goes to his uncle’s farm and helps him works 3 jobs there.
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......."helps him work"or"help him to work? or else?
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I don't think you mean "three jobs." You may mean three chores, or three tasks.
Also, you used the present tense, which implies that it's a repeated action.

Every day after school, he goes to his uncle's farm and helps his uncle with three tasks/chores/something else?

NOTE: I have edited my post to correct a typo that caused confusion. Sorry for that.
 
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I agree that it is better to use "three tast".
 

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Also, you use the present tense,
Hi Barb_D
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You used present indefinite tense in this main clause. It does not seem natural to me(though I am not an English native speaker). Can you help me understand please?
 
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Hi Barb_D
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You used present indefinite tense in this main clause. It does seem natural to me(though I am not an English native speaker). Can you help me understand please?
I'm not Barb, but I might be able to explain. We use the present indefinite (simple present) to talk about habitual action. You used it in your example.
"Also, you use the present tense ..."
Using the present tense is a habitual or indefinite action. That is, to use the present tense in a certain situation is an indefinite action. It's timeless. "One uses the present tense in this situation." This is true yesterday, today and tomorrow. What could be more "present indefinite" than that?
 

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We use the present indefinite (simple present) to talk about habitual action.
You write "We use the present indefinite (simple present) to talk about habitual action."

My example, and Barb's, are not habitual actions. I could have written, "You wrote ...", and normally would write that, but I used the present because your writing is in front of me as I type. I think that Barb's use of the present simple was similar.

It's not uncommon to hear "You say/write in your report ...", especially if the report is in the speaker's hand.
 

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Thank you.
But I forget to type 'not'. It would be
'It does not seem natural to me.'.

 

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Simple answer: I made a typo because I changed my mind about what I wanted to say.
You used [in your example], which implies...
You use... when you want to...

My sentence should have read "you used."
 

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Oh, I misread Barb's original. I was responding to the quote in #5. My reply was an answer to the question: "Why did you say, 'You use the present tense ...'?"
Sorry about that.
 

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Might be it is a typo, but according to 5jj, that is a different use of present indefinite tense, isn't it ?
 

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Might be it is a typo, but according to 5jj, that is a different use of present indefinite tense, isn't it ?
I was wrong about Barb's motives. However, 'You use' would have been possible there in the way that I mentioned. Note, too, that Barb used the present tense of 'mean', "I don't think you mean "three jobs." You may mean three chores, or three tasks." That, in my opinion, is also not habitual action here.
 
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sumon, if you have further questions about using the simple present, may I suggest you start a new thread?
 

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Yes, thanks for your suggestion.:-D
 

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Thank you to everyone. From the beginning, I had a problem about how to use "to" after "help" (help work) or (help to work).
And I need an explanation of how and why to use or not to use it.
Barb_D suggested that it would be better to use three tasks/chores/something else. I have agreed with that.
Then there were more discussions about using of presentense from some others.
I'm not a native. I think about how different between "help him work" and "help him to work"
To help him work is to work for him. To help him to work is to do something that help him work better.
Please discuss more to my idea presented above.
 

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To help him work is to work for him. To help him to work is to do something that help him work better.
Please discuss more to my idea presented above.
No, generally they mean pretty much the same thing. You can use either.
Consider the following:
"Help me [to] wash the dishes."
"I helped my sister [to] learn English."
'Help' seems to be a special verb in this respect, in that 'to' is optional. ('Work' is not the unusual verb). I can't think of another verb that works like this. Maybe someone else can.
 
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