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    until and present perf. and / cont.

    Hello,

    -I have always studied English all my life until you say 'stop studying' to me.

    -I have been always studiying English all my life until you say 'stop studying' to me.

    I know the sentences may seem weird, but please tell me if they are grammatically correct or not. I mean must we use 'present tense' after 'until' when using 'present perf. and present perf. cont. tense?

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    Re: until and present perf. and / cont.

    When you use the present perfect, you are normally thinking of a time period that extends up to the present moment. You do not, therefore, associate it with 'until', which would relate to a time period extending up to another point in time.

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    Re: until and present perf. and / cont.

    Does it contain for the second sentence also what have you explained? or we must we say like that?

    -I have always studied English all my life until you have said 'stop studying' to me.

    -I have been always studiying English all my life until you have been saying 'stop studying' to me.

    Last edited by ridvann; 27-Feb-2012 at 17:29.

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    #4

    Re: until and present perf. and / cont.

    OP: I have always studied English all my life until you say 'stop studying' to me.

    Compare

    I always do my English studies until you say "Stop" to me. (a fact of general character)

    and

    All my life I did my English studies until you said "Stop" to me.


    Am I right?

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    Re: until and present perf. and / cont.

    Yes... Is it weird?

    All my life I have done my English studies until you have said 'Stop' to me.

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    #6

    Re: until and present perf. and / cont.

    Quote Originally Posted by ridvann View Post
    All my life I have done my English studies until you have said 'Stop' to me.
    This is not acceptable English. As I said, you do not associate the present perfect with 'until'. Both verbs in that sentence need to be in the past simple.

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