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    The painting seems to be an imitation

    What's the difference between "seem" and "would" in this case? Don't they both mean "presumption"?
    If so, is "seem" only for visible things, while "would" is for both visible and invisible things? I think "The idea seems to be a failure" also works.

    ex)The painting seems to be an imitation, not the genuine one.
    The painting would be an imitation, not the genuine one.

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    Re: The painting seems to be an imitation

    Maybe this is too tricky...

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    Re: The painting seems to be an imitation

    [AmE - not a teacher]

    I can clearly tell what the first sentence means. The second one is confusing, and with no context, it doesn't mean anything to me.

    1: The painting would be an imitation, not the genuine one.
    2: Huh? What do you mean "would be"?

    That's the best I can come up with.

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    Re: The painting seems to be an imitation

    Okay, I think another example is better. Your phone is ringing and the caller seems to be your friend Dave, so you can say, before anwering the call, to your family, in two ways.
    1. That would be Dave.
    2. That seems to be Dave.
    Maybe 2 might not be proper, but I'm trying to know the difference between "would" and "seem" in case of "presumption" or "guess".

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    Re: The painting seems to be an imitation

    Quote Originally Posted by keannu View Post
    Okay, I think another example is better. Your phone is ringing and the caller seems to be your friend Dave, so you can say, before anwering the call, to your family, in two ways.
    1. That would be Dave. - presumption
    2. That seems to be Dave. - guess
    Maybe 2 might not be proper, but I'm trying to know the difference between "would" and "seem" in case of "presumption" or "guess".
    Seems like you have it right, re: "presumption" or "guess".

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    Re: The painting seems to be an imitation

    Maybe I'm contradicting myself, and this is the problem of term definitions, so is "guess" lower than "presumption" in terms of intensity?

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    Re: The painting seems to be an imitation

    Quote Originally Posted by keannu View Post
    Maybe I'm contradicting myself, and this is the problem of term definitions, so is "guess" lower than "presumption" in terms of intensity level of certainty?
    Yes.

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