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    #1

    One sentence

    I have a very short issue. It concerns this sentence:
    …Then I realized it was not worth to exert myself for something that no one would appreciate…
    Is it grammatically correct?

    Thanks in advice,
    Flubber

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    #2

    Re: One sentence

    Then I realized it was not worth to exert exerting myself for something that no one would appreciate…

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    #3

    Re: One sentence

    ***** NOT A TEACHER *****


    Hello, Flubber:

    (1) 5jj has given us the answer that probably 99% of teachers and native speakers use. In other words, he has given us the answer.

    (2) Since any member is allowed to contribute his comments (so long as they are not completely crazy), may I respectfully suggest

    that possibly 1% of speakers would phrase your sentence this way:


    Then I realized (that) it was not worth while exerting myself for something that no one appreciated.

    (a) Why does that 1% feel that "while" is needed? Let me try to explain:

    (i) The "it" in your sentence is probably NOT an ordinary pronoun.

    (ii) It is probably the placeholder for "exerting myself for something that no one appreciated."

    (iii) The sentence is "really": It (exerting myself for something that no one appreciated) is not worth while.

    (a) If you did not have a word after "worth," then the sentence would not make sense. It has to be worth something!



    HAVE A NICE DAY!

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    #4

    Re: One sentence

    Parser, I can see your point, but they wouldn't be two separate words. I think you mean to suggest that "worth" be changed to "worthwhile".

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    #5

    Re: One sentence

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    I thank thee very much for thy kind note.

    (1) To the best of my knowledge, "worthwhile" should be used as an adjective. ("Visiting UsingEnglish.com is a very worthwhile activity.")

    (2) If I understood the teachings of the master, aka Mr. Henry Fowler, one needs an "object" after the adjective "worth." (The much

    "younger" Professor Quirk considers it to be a preposition.)

    (3) I believe that, therefore, we are to consider "while" as a noun.

    (a) In fact, even Mr. Fowler would not have suggested following these examples of older English (found on Google books):

    "I think it therefore worth the while to spend the time ...." -- Bishop John Sharp in 1676.

    "It would be well worth the while of American manufacturers of these machines to secure more of the business." -- written in 1906
    (well before globalization!).

    "The attempt on the part of Bridgeport to emulate Havana or New Orleans, [sic] would scarcely be worth the while." -- 1879

    *****

    Since this is 2012, students should, of course, accept 5jj's sentence as the model to follow. But I felt that it would be somewhat

    entertaining to raise this point because some advanced students are always looking for opportunities to expand their knowledge.


    HAVE A NICE DAY!

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    #6

    Re: One sentence

    "Then I realized (that)
    it was not worth while exerting myself for something that no one appreciated."

    I'm sorry, Parser but that sentence doesn't make any sense to me with "while" as a seperate word.

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