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    #1

    seem

    Is there any semantic difference between these two below?

    It seems that they need to work harder.
    It seems necessary that they (should) work harder.

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    Re: seem

    Quote Originally Posted by Taka View Post
    Is there any semantic difference between these two below?

    It seems that they need to work harder.
    It seems necessary that they (should) work harder.
    No, not that I can see.

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    #3

    Re: seem

    I tried to come up with convincing contexts to suggest a difference - and failed.

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    #4

    Re: seem

    Thanks. Just out of interest, about your comment, bhaisahab.

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    not that I can see.
    Is it the same as 'not that which I can see'?

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    #5

    Re: seem

    Quote Originally Posted by Taka View Post
    'not that which I can see'?
    That is not natural English here.

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    #6

    Re: seem

    I thought not.

    But then grammatically, what is that 'that'?

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    #7

    Re: seem

    = There's no difference/isn't any difference that I can see.

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    #8

    Re: seem

    Oh, I see. Thanks, tdol.

    Is that elliptical expression quite common?

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