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    Let's say both John and Peter own a store. Once, John was in Peter's store, and Peter kicked him out. Today, Peter was in John's store and John wanted revenge:

    "John kicked Peter back out."
    "John kicked Peter out back."

    Which one is correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhioMain View Post
    Let's say both John and Peter own a store. Once, John was in Peter's store, and Peter kicked him out. Today, Peter was in John's store and John wanted revenge:

    "John kicked Peter back out."
    "John kicked Peter out back."

    Which one is correct?
    For the context you're looking for, neither of them works.

    John kicked Peter back out = Peter had been outside, then he came inside and then John kicked him outside again (back out)
    John kicked Peter out back = John and Peter were outside at the back of a building and John kicked Peter (the normal verb "to kick" in the location "out back")

    The only ways I can think to say what you want to say are:

    "John got his own back by kicking Peter out."
    "John got back at Peter by kicking him out of his store."

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    Re: Back

    Thanks emsr2d2!

    Suppose Peter punched John, and John retaliated:

    "John punched Peter back."
    "John punched back Peter."

    So, these are not correct?

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    Re: Back

    Quote Originally Posted by OhioMain View Post
    Thanks emsr2d2!

    Suppose Peter punched John, and John retaliated:

    "John punched Peter back."
    "John punched back Peter."

    So, these are not correct?
    See above. I think the issue with the first one was that it was a phrasal verb and the combination just didn't work. Here, using "back" to mean "in direct retaliation" works fine.

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