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    Does "there was him" make sense? If it does, what possible instance can this be used?

    "There was he" is pretty clear...but I am not quite sure if there are instances where "there was him" can possibly be used.

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    Re: Does "there was him" make sense? If it does, what possible instance can this be u

    I can't think of natural contexts for either at the moment.

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    Re: Does "there was him" make sense? If it does, what possible instance can this be u

    A: I always seem to date such short guys!
    B: Really?
    A: Yeah, there was Pete, who was like 5'5". There was Jon, who was maybe 5'8". There was Greg, who was no more than 5'6"
    B: But there was Allen, too. He was 6'6"!
    A: Oh yeah. I forgot. There was him.

    A VERY informal conversation, teetering on the brink of grammaticality, but natural, perhaps?
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: Does "there was him" make sense? If it does, what possible instance can this be u

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
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    A: Oh yeah. I forgot. There was him.

    A VERY informal conversation, teetering on the brink of grammaticality, but natural, perhaps?
    Yes.

    I see that COCA gives only five citations for 'there was he/him' - and yours sounds more natural than the COCA ones.

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    Thumbs up Re: Does "there was him" make sense? If it does, what possible instance can this be u

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    A: I always seem to date such short guys!
    B: Really?
    A: Yeah, there was Pete, who was like 5'5". There was Jon, who was maybe 5'8". There was Greg, who was no more than 5'6"
    B: But there was Allen, too. He was 6'6"!
    A: Oh yeah. I forgot. There was him.

    A VERY informal conversation, teetering on the brink of grammaticality, but natural, perhaps?


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    I think the subjective case rightfully follows the verb when "there" is used to introduce the subject.

    May I know your take on this?

    B: But there was Allen, too. He was 6'6"!
    A: Oh yeah. I forgot. There was he!

    Hmmm. I am not a native of the language, I may not be able to understand when you say it sounds natural. sorry.
    Thanks! :)

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    Re: Does "there was him" make sense? If it does, what possible instance can this be u

    Quote Originally Posted by kenji View Post
    A: Oh yeah. I forgot. There was he!
    That sounds very unnatural.
    The 'rule' about subject forms after BE was never one that was observed by more than a minority of native speakers. It always sounded affected to most people.

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