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Good morning!

If my manager asks me to make a call for him (and transfer it to him), does this script sound ok? Any idea, please?

- (greeting) this is X, I'm calling on behalf of Mr. Y. He needs to speak to Mr. Z. Could you put me through, please?

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Good morning! Good morning is a bit inaccurate to say the least (It is afternoon here and evening in many other states). Also, strictly speaking, putting an exclamation mark after a greeting is not something you should do.
- (greeting) this is X, I'm calling on behalf of Mr. Y. He needs to speak to Mr. Z. Could you put me through, please?

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The part where you say "He needs to speak to Mr. Z." sounds a tad too demanding/impolite to me. You might want to reconsider if it is appropriate for Mr. Y to need something form Mr. Z. Instead, I would say "He would like to speak to Mr. Z". Maybe I am splitting hairs, so let's wait for someone more competent.
 

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It sounds fine. Maybe say "he would like to speak with Mr. Z" instead of saying "needs to."
 

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Never mind protocol. I'd be asking my boss why he can't make his own phone calls! Have his fingers dropped off?
 

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Never mind protocol. I'd be asking my boss why he can't make his own phone calls! Have his fingers dropped off?

What if he/she works as an assistant of Mr. Z? Then it might be in her/his job description to make phone calls for Mr. Z. At least that is how it works where I live.
 

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Never mind protocol. I'd be asking my boss why he can't make his own phone calls! Have his fingers dropped off?

Note to self: Don't ask emsr2d2 to get me coffee. ;-)
 

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CarloSsS,

I'm sorry, but you really stick to details. I see the time zone thing, but I don't see any problem using an exclamation after my greeting. It's not my problem if you have issues on being nice. You're indeed into Darth Vader.:shock::oops:
 

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CarloSsS,

I'm sorry, but you really stick to details. I see the time zone thing, but I don't see any problem using an exclamation after my greeting. It's not my problem if you have issues on being nice. You're indeed into Darth Vader.:shock::oops:

I am sorry if I offended you in any way, my intentions were the best. Not using exclamation point in greetings is not my idea, I got it from Michael Swan's Practical English in Usage. I do not see how an exclamation point after a greeting makes that greeting nicer. You use whatever you please, it just is not proper English (according to Swan). And yes, you are right. I am into details and it sometimes makes my life more difficult, but I can't help it.
 
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What if he/she works as an assistant of Mr. Z? Then it might be in her/his job description to make phone calls for Mr. Z. At least that is how it works where I live.

It's one of the issues that I have with "authority" or "grades" in workplaces. I do understand that this man is the boss of the company and if I were working as his assistant and he asked me to make a phone call for him, I would have no problem with that. I would expect to telephone the person concerned and have a conversation with them on behalf of my boss. Perhaps the person I would telephone would be the assistant to a boss of another company and we would talk to each other about certain issues. We would then pass the contents/details of our conversation on to our respective bosses. Clearly, on that basis, I have some responsibility and I would feel like a valued member of his team/staff.

If he simply expected me to pick up the telephone, dial the numbers, and then as soon as the other boss was on the phone, transfer the call to him, I would be extremely unhappy. Those are more like the actions of "master and servant", not a boss and his valued assistant. I would not expect the personal assistant of a the boss of a company to be employed to carry out such menial tasks.

No-one is too busy to dial a few numbers on a telephone themselves. I'm sure if he is that important then he probably has a direct number for the other boss and doesn't actually need someone to call the company, speak to the receptionist, speak to the other boss's personal assistant and then put the call through to him. If he is simply too lazy to pick up the phone and make the call himself, then I wouldn't consider him worth working for.

In my previous job, I held a fairly responsible position within the British Civil Service. I had earned my position and it warranted a certain amount of respect. On my first day at a new office back in 2002, my immediate superior at that office handed me a piece of paper and said "Fax that". After a brief pause, I handed it back and said "No". He looked at me in astonishment. I pointed out that I was only one grade below him, was a valued and quite high-ranking member of the department and that I was pretty sure that "faxing stuff" wasn't in my job description. I pointed out that there were a number of administrative staff who were actually employed to send faxes and to answer the phone and I was sure that one of them would be delighted to fulfil his request. It worked and he didn't ask me to do such a menial task in the future. I should point out that I actually never asked the admin staff to send a fax that I had written and printed out. As far as I was concerned, it was my fax and up to me to send. I always sent them myself because I simply could not bring myself to appear so lazy that I couldn't shove one piece of paper into a fax machine and press a few buttons.

I will step down off my soapbox now, you'll be pleased to know.

As far as the original question goes, if it is indeed that person's responsibility to do so, I would say:
"Good morning/afternoon. This is Jim Brown, personal assistant to Bob Fox at Macrosoft Limited. Mr Fox would like to speak to Mr Jones. Could you put me/him through please?"
 

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I agree that there is not as much rigamarole in getting most people on the phone nowadays, nor is it that difficult to operate telephones.

That said, people at a certain level can be expected to have their time managed well and doing such tasks may not be an appropriate use of their time.

I wouldn't expect the President of the US to spend his time waiting for people to get on the phone.

Other higher level executives in companies I would expect are the same.

As a routine, for any given supervisor to have an employee make calls for him is not common and could be considered demeaning. Like getting coffee.

But there are legitimate, important people who I am sure appreciate that their assistants do this kind of thing for them.
 

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CarloSsS,

I'm sorry, but you really stick to details. I see the time zone thing, but I don't see any problem using an exclamation after my greeting. It's not my problem if you have issues on being nice. You're indeed into Darth Vader.:shock::oops:

I wouldn't worry too much about it in an informal setting. It comes across as cheerful and there is nothing wrong with that.

In a formal letter, you wouldn't.
 

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I wouldn't worry too much about it in an informal setting. It comes across as cheerful and there is nothing wrong with that.

In a formal letter, you wouldn't.

In Practical English Usage it says you should not put "!" after "Dear X". As I understand it, you can use "Dear X" in informal context as well as in formal. Thus I inferred that it applies to any greeting. Obviously, I was wrong.
 

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I wouldn't worry too much about it in an informal setting. It comes across as cheerful and there is nothing wrong with that.

In a formal letter, you wouldn't.

Yes, sure I would not.;-)
 

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I may be nit-picking here, but "Would/could you put me through to him, please" sounds completely unnecessary. If you've just said that your boss would like to speak to him, then it's understood you'd like to be connected to his line.

Also, it implies that your boss is more important than the person you're calling. The person being called will have wait on the line while you let your boss know that you've reached him. In other words, it's okay for the person being called to wait to be connected to your boss, even though your boss thinks it's NOT okay for him to wait to be connected to him. That could cause some irritation if I'm the one who had to wait. Isn't my time valuable too?
 

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I may be nit-picking here, but "Would/could you put me through to him, please" sounds completely unnecessary. If you've just said that your boss would like to speak to him, then it's understood you'd like to be connected to his line.

Also, it implies that your boss is more important than the person you're calling. The person being called will have wait on the line while you let your boss know that you've reached him. In other words, it's okay for the person being called to wait to be connected to your boss, even though your boss thinks it's NOT okay for him to wait to be connected to him. That could cause some irritation if I'm the one who had to wait. Isn't my time valuable too?

I agree with you to a certain extent with the first part, though I think something needs to be said after "My boss wants to speak to yours" so perhaps "Is he available?" might be a better bet.

I certainly agree with the second part. I would be rather irritated if I were the important boss of a company, my personal assistant put a call through to me, and I then found that I was on the line to another personal assistant who said "OK, now you're on the line, I'll transfer the call to my boss". What a messy way of doing things.

I still stand my assertion that all of this could be avoided if the two bosses just phoned each other direct, or had a chat on the golf course or the squash court like most CEOs seem to do! ;-)
 
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