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    #1

    Exclamation the stress in quite large and white house

    Hi
    Are these correct?

    1. 'quite large: very large
    2. quite 'large: fairly large
    3. white 'house: a house which is painted white
    4. 'white house: not a red house
    5. The 'White House: the presidential palace

    Thanks in advance

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    Re: the stress in quite large and white house

    I don't think how you stress "quite large" makes any difference at all.

    The stress on "white house" emphasizes whether it is the whiteness or the house that is important.

    "I'm looking for a WHITE house" means I'm not looking for a house of any other color.

    "I'm looking for a white HOUSE" means I'm not looking for a white barn or church or apartment building.

    The White House is the residence and offices of the president. You might call it a mansion. It's not a "palace." Palaces are for kings.

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    Re: the stress in quite large and white house

    Quote Originally Posted by SoothingDave View Post
    I don't think how you stress "quite large" makes any difference at all.

    The stress on "white house" emphasizes whether it is the whiteness or the house that is important.

    "I'm looking for a WHITE house" means I'm not looking for a house of any other color.

    "I'm looking for a white HOUSE" means I'm not looking for a white barn or church or apartment building.

    The White House is the residence and offices of the president. You might call it a mansion. It's not a "palace." Palaces are for kings.
    Thanks for the response. Undoubtedly you are right about the definition of the word 'palace' but the usage of this phrase in talking about 'The White House' is undeniable.
    Take a look at this:

    At various times in history, the White House has been known as the "President's Palace," the "President's House," and the "Executive Mansion." President Theodore Roosevelt officially gave the White House its current name in 1901.
    White House Facts

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    Regardless of history, it is not called a palace now and the idea offends.

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    Re: the stress in quite large and white house

    Quote Originally Posted by SoothingDave View Post
    I don't think how you stress "quite large" makes any difference at all.

    The stress on "white house" emphasizes whether it is the whiteness or the house that is important.

    "I'm looking for a WHITE house" means I'm not looking for a house of any other color.

    "I'm looking for a white HOUSE" means I'm not looking for a white barn or church or apartment building.

    The White House is the residence and offices of the president. You might call it a mansion. It's not a "palace." Palaces are for kings.
    I do agree with you about number 3 and 4, I made a mistake there but I suppose there is a subtle difference between 'quite large and quite 'large according to where the stress falls. I'll appreciate more comments on it.

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    Re: the stress in quite large and white house

    Quote Originally Posted by SoothingDave View Post
    Regardless of history, it is not called a palace now and the idea offends.
    Thanks for letting me know that, however I didn't try to convey anything special.

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    Re: the stress in quite large and white house

    Quote Originally Posted by faryan View Post
    I suppose there is a subtle difference between 'quite large and quite 'large according to where the stress falls. I'll appreciate more comments on it.
    I agree, but I don't agree with your suggestions in your first post. Here are my ideas:

    The house is QUITE large. - It is fairly large. It is not very large.
    The house is quite LARGE, - Its largeness is worth commenting on. It is not neccessaril very large, but it could be.

    It is difficult to be precise, because the idea of 'largeness' is a very personal thing. My 'large' house would seem small to a person with ten times my income. All I can say is that, for the same speaker describing the same thing, 'quite LARGE' is larger (in the speaker's mind) than 'QUITE large'.

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    Thanks dear 5jj
    That was really what I've been searching. You are always helpful.
    By the way, I missed you a lot. happy to meet you again dear.

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