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    Euro 2012 what tense?

    1) "There's been a festive atmosphere in the fan zone during Euro 2012."

    Could I use the Present Perfect in the above sentence? Would I be sort of extending it to the moment of speaking if I used the Present Perfect instead of the Past Simple?

    2) "There had been a festive atmoshere in the fan zone during Euro 2012."

    Could I use the Past Perfect here to talk about it as an event that started in the past and ended before another momen in the past?
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    Re: Euro 2012 what tense?

    Quote Originally Posted by ostap77 View Post
    1) "There's been a festive atmosphere in the fan zone during Euro 2012."

    Could I use the Present Perfect in the above sentence?
    You have used the present perfect. Yes, it's right. It means "So far, there has been ..."
    Would I be sort of extending it to the moment of speaking if I used the Present Perfect instead of the Past Simple?
    Yes, that's what you've done.

    2) "There had been a fastive atmoshere in the fan zone during Euro 2012."

    Could I use the Past Perfect here to talk about it as an event that started in the past and ended before another momen in the past?
    Yes, but in this case you don't have two events in the past.
    You can't use the beginning and the end of Euro 2012 as two events for this purpose. You have only one event - Euro 2012. And incidentally, your sentence uses "during", which refers to one period of time.
    Therefore you use the simple past. "There was ..."

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    #3

    Re: Euro 2012 what tense?

    Ray got to every one of the points I was going to make. I guess they CAN read and write in Australia.

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    Re: Euro 2012 what tense?

    Quote Originally Posted by konungursvia View Post
    I guess they CAN read and write in Australia.
    Has there been some recent controversy about whether we could or not?

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    #5

    Re: Euro 2012 what tense?

    Not that I know of; it was just an unprovoked bit of irony, based on the fact that the education system there is so well run (I know Ontario's new curriculum was modelled in part on the Aussies and the Finns).

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    Re: Euro 2012 what tense?

    Quote Originally Posted by konungursvia View Post
    Not that I know of; it was just an unprovoked bit of irony, based on the fact that the education system there is so well run (I know Ontario's new curriculum was modelled in part on the Aussies and the Finns).
    Ah, then Ontario is going to burden its youth with postmodernist deconstructionism before they have developed literacy and numeracy skills? I really did wonder whether you had been reading about the complaints of poor preparation for beginning university students in Australia; or The Australian's recent campaign to improve awareness of illiteracy and innumeracy among our school teachers.
    (I'm not suggesting that this is an exclusively Australian problem, of course. And many of our young people do learn to read and write, despite their education.)

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    Re: Euro 2012 what tense?

    Could I use it as in "There had been a festive atmosphere in the fan zone before Euro 2012 was over."?

    It's been almost a month now since it was over. Could I still talk about Euro 2012 in the Presen Perfect instead of the Pas Simple?

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    Re: Euro 2012 what tense?

    Quote Originally Posted by ostap77 View Post
    Could I use it as in "There had been a festive atmosphere in the fan zone before Euro 2012 was over."? This is not natural English.

    It's been almost a month now since it was over. Could I still talk about Euro 2012 in the Present Perfect instead of the Past Simple? No.
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