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    Central Asian Republics include Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan, Although all of them are important for India from the perspective of trade, security, energy security, civilisational link, but the ones particularly important are Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan and Tajikistan.

    1) What does
    ones mean in this context?(My doubt is that can(or should) ones be used with plurals?.

    2) Shouldn't the punctuation be full stop instead of comma before the word Although?

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    Re: ones

    1 It refers to the Cental Asian Republics. Yes, it can be plural.
    2 Yes, it should be a period/full stop.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: ones

    Hello.

    "Although all of them are important for India from the perspective of trade, security, energy security, civilisational link, but the
    ones particularly important are Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan and Tajikistan."

    "but" should be deleted in my opinion.


    (Edit) Or "Although All of them are important for India from the perspective of trade, security, energy security, civilisational link, but the ones particularly important are Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan and Tajikistan."



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    Re: ones

    No, the "but" draws the contrast in the importance. If you delete the "but" you drop the contrast and you also have a comma splice.

    The sentence could be improved with a "that are" after "ones."
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: ones

    I was not familiar with "(Al)though...but...".
    And thank you for the word "comma splice". I've just learned a new expression.

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    #6

    Re: ones

    I hate to disagree with Barb, I don't like the use of "Although" and "but" in that sentence. One or the other, yes.

    "Although they are all important, but the most important ones are a, b and c" is not at all natural.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    #7

    Re: ones

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    I hate to disagree with Barb, I don't like the use of "Although" and "but" in that sentence. One or the other, yes.

    "Although they are all important, but the most important ones are a, b and c" is not at all natural.
    I agree with ems. I think Barb misread something there.

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    #8

    Re: ones

    Oops. Hope the crow has been properly seasoned. I managed to miss the "Although" entirely.

    You are, of course, correct and I was quite wrong.

    My only excuse is that I'm on the phone and it's hard to see it all at once but I should have tried harder before telling someone else that they were wrong.
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    #9

    Re: ones

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post

    "Although they are all important, but the most important ones are a, b and c" is not at all natural.
    Then, is that the original unnatural?

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    #10

    Re: ones

    I'm afraid to even answer, but yes. You don't want both "Although" and "but."
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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