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    Arrival of the baby

    We have a baby son.
    Our son was born on 3rd of July.

    However, I have learnt it is correct to say arrival of the son/baby.

    Do you say the baby was arrived on 3rd of July instead of the baby was born on 3rd of July?



    In my recent question, our friend emsr told me patients arrived at hospital.

    So over 100 patients came to hospital today is not fine.

    Over 100 patients arrived at hospital.

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    #2

    Re: Arrival of the baby

    NOT A TEACHER

    See #5, arrive - Definition from Longman English Dictionary Online

    5
    be born
    to be born:
    Sharon's baby arrived just after midnight.
    Our son arrived on July 3rd.

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    #3

    Re: Arrival of the baby

    In BrE, it is very common to refer to the arrival of a baby. Most congratulations cards for it say "Congratulations on the arrival of your new baby".

    You can't say "Our baby was arrived ...", you say "Our baby arrived on 3rd July".
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    #4

    Re: Arrival of the baby

    Thanks for the replies
    Our friend emsr says 'the baby was arrived on 3rd of July' is not correct.
    What is the error?
    I guess the verb error is intransitive. I am not sure.

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    #5

    Re: Arrival of the baby

    The baby was born on 3rd of July.
    I think the above is a passive sentence.
    Please tell me.

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    #6

    Re: Arrival of the baby

    Right -- arrived is not transitive.
    Delivered is transitive: The doctor delivered the baby. The baby was delivered.
    Arrived is intransitive. No one can "arrive you" so you can't say the baby "was arrived."
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: Arrival of the baby

    Thanks

    The baby was born on 3rd of July.
    Is the above passive sentence?

    Please tell me.

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    #8

    Re: Arrival of the baby

    "To be born" only works in the passive. It is not possible to "born" and "to born" is not a verb. The verb to do with childbirth is "to bear".

    The mother bears a child (carries it in her womb). (Present tense)
    The mother bore a son (she gave birth to a boy). (Past tense)
    The baby was born. (Past passive)
    The baby is being born right now. (Unlikely but it means that the mother is currently in childbirth)
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    #9

    Re: Arrival of the baby

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    "To be born" only works in the passive. It is not possible to "born" and "to born" is not a verb. The verb to do with childbirth is "to bear".

    The mother bears a child (carries it in her womb). (Present tense)
    The mother bore a son (she gave birth to a boy). (Past tense)
    The baby was born. (Past passive)
    The baby is being born right now. (Unlikely but it means that the mother is currently in childbirth)
    And

    The mother has borne a son. (Present perfect)

    I think "bear" is the only verb whose active and passive past participles are different.

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    Re: Arrival of the baby

    I wonder though: if for some reason I wanted to write

    She bore him.

    in the passive voice, should I write

    He was born by her.

    or

    He was borne by her.

    for the sentence to look more natural? By the rules I see in the dictionary, it's clear I should use "born". But I somehow feel that "borne" would be better.

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