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    Though/Even

    The anwer for this question is "Though" and the explanation is that "though" doesn't need any premise or prerequisite setences, while "even if" needs one. Is it true?
    I seem to have seen that "though" and "even if" are interchangeable. But according to the explanation, does "even if" need something like accepted truths like the following?
    A- She is gorgeous B - Even if she is gorgeous, she won't become an actress without excellent acting talent.

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    ex)Thanks to the computer and other new technologies, the English language is growing up by up to 20,000 words a year. Though/Even if the bulk of these new terms are scientific, technical, or of otherwise specialized application, hundreds of terms find their way into the main body of English each year...

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    Re: Though/Even

    -not a teacher-

    Here is a link that seems to answer your question: "Is there any difference in meaning between even if and even though?"

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    Re: Though/Even

    I've seen that, I need a practical, real-life answer.

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    Re: Though/Even

    Quote Originally Posted by keannu View Post
    I've seen that, I need a practical, real-life answer.
    mathias-r's link seems to me to offer a pretty good explanation. In any case, it would be polite to thank him for his effort in finding it for you.

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    Re: Though/Even

    If the link's rule is absolute, I will follow it. But I seem to have heard that "even though" and "even if" are interchangeable in some cases. Is it a misconception or a mistake by people?
    Anyway, for accepted truths, "even if" can be used.

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    Re: Though/Even

    Quote Originally Posted by keannu View Post
    But I seem to have heard that "even though" and "even if" are interchangeable in some cases. Is it a misconception or a mistake by people?
    Can you think of a sentence in which "even if" and "even though" can be used interchangeably with no difference in meaning? I can't and I completely agree with the BBC that they are not interchangeable.

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    Re: Though/Even

    Accepted truth

    A - She is gorgeous.
    B - Even if(Even though) she is gorgeous, she can't become an actress without excellent acting talent.

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    Re: Though/Even

    Quote Originally Posted by keannu View Post
    Accepted truth

    A - She is gorgeous.
    B - Even if(Even though) she is gorgeous, she can't become an actress without excellent acting talent.
    Here, with "even though" B accepts that she is gorgeous. With "even if" B accepts the possibility that she may be gorgeous.

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    Re: Though/Even

    No, I don't think so. Depending on context, "Even if" can mean accepted truths or predictive conditional(possibility).

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    Re: Though/Even

    Quote Originally Posted by keannu View Post
    No, I don't think so. Depending on context, "Even if" can mean accepted truths or predictive conditional(possibility).
    You're missing the point. bhaisahab did an excellent job of explaining the difference, but let me try to do it in a different way.

    A: She is gorgeous.
    B: Even if she is gorgeous, she can't become an actress without excellent acting talent.

    Does B think that she is gorgeous? We don't know for sure. B only accepts the possibility that she is gorgeous.

    A: She is gorgeous.
    B: Even though she is gorgeous, she can't become an actress without excellent acting talent.

    Does B think that she is gorgeous? Yes.

    Can "even if" and "even though" be used interchangeably with no difference in meaning? No.

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