[Grammar] First Love

Status
Not open for further replies.

strike2

Banned
Joined
Aug 2, 2012
Member Type
Student or Learner
Native Language
Bosnian
Home Country
Bosnia Herzegovina
Current Location
Bosnia Herzegovina
Is it standard English to write "first love", when "love" is uncountable, but "first" suggests countability?
 

5jj

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Oct 14, 2010
Member Type
English Teacher
Native Language
British English
Home Country
Czech Republic
Current Location
Czech Republic
Is it standard English to write "first love", when "love" is uncountable, but "first" suggests countability?
'Love' in that sense is countable.

There have been several loves in my life, but Esmeralda will stay in my heart forever. She wasn't my first love, or even my second, but she was, without doubt, the love of my life.
 

Rover_KE

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Jun 20, 2010
Member Type
Retired English Teacher
Native Language
British English
Home Country
England
Current Location
England
Welcome to the forums, strike2.

'First love' is standard. 'Love' can be countable or uncountable.

See meaning #3 below from the COED:

love
noun
  • 1 an intense feeling of deep affection.■ a deep romantic or sexual attachment to someone.
    ■ affectionate greetings.

  • 2 a great interest and pleasure in something.

  • 3 a person or thing that one loves.■ Brit. informal a friendly form of address.


    Rover

 

strike2

Banned
Joined
Aug 2, 2012
Member Type
Student or Learner
Native Language
Bosnian
Home Country
Bosnia Herzegovina
Current Location
Bosnia Herzegovina
So, I must write "he had a first love at 16", not "he had first love at 16"?
 

charliedeut

VIP Member
Joined
Oct 19, 2009
Member Type
Interested in Language
Native Language
Spanish
Home Country
Spain
Current Location
Spain
So, I must write "he had a first love at 16", not "he had first love at 16"?

Hi would say 'he had/experienced his/the first love...' since there is just one first love.

charliedeut
 

5jj

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Oct 14, 2010
Member Type
English Teacher
Native Language
British English
Home Country
Czech Republic
Current Location
Czech Republic
I agree, though I have managed to convince several old flames when I have met them later in life that they were my first love. I just hope that my five first loves never get together to compare notes.

:oops:
 

strike2

Banned
Joined
Aug 2, 2012
Member Type
Student or Learner
Native Language
Bosnian
Home Country
Bosnia Herzegovina
Current Location
Bosnia Herzegovina
To describe the first experience of love (not the person), I must then use "a first love"?
 

Barb_D

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Mar 12, 2007
Member Type
Other
Native Language
American English
Home Country
United States
Current Location
United States
Not necessarily. In fact, if you want to talk feeling and not person, probably not.

Write the full sentence and we'll see.
 

strike2

Banned
Joined
Aug 2, 2012
Member Type
Student or Learner
Native Language
Bosnian
Home Country
Bosnia Herzegovina
Current Location
Bosnia Herzegovina
So, both mean the same?

"he has just experienced first love"
"he has just experienced a first love"
 

5jj

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Oct 14, 2010
Member Type
English Teacher
Native Language
British English
Home Country
Czech Republic
Current Location
Czech Republic
So, both mean the same?

"he has just experienced first love"
"he has just experienced a first love"
Only the first is natural. My countable 'first love' in post #6 was possible, but I had to think hard before I came up with a convincing context. 'First love' is normally uncountable. As charlie pointed out, people can only have one first love, unless they are deceivers like that rogue in post #6.
 

SoothingDave

VIP Member
Joined
Apr 17, 2009
Member Type
Interested in Language
Native Language
American English
Home Country
United States
Current Location
United States
"He has just experienced his first love" seems more natural to me.
 

winnie22

Junior Member
Joined
Jul 26, 2012
Member Type
English Teacher
Native Language
Turkish
Home Country
Turkey
Current Location
Turkey
Here, love is the love of a person so it is countable. We can count people so we can count them by the love of them
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top