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    past or present tense

    Hello,

    1. I have had breakfast this morning. (still morning)

    2. I had breakfast this morning. (still morning)

    P.S: I had my breakfast and I won't have breakfast one more time.

    My question is that must we use the simple past or present perfect tense while using a time expression such as this morning? Which one is OK?

    Thanks.

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    Re: past or present tense

    Quote Originally Posted by aysaa View Post
    Hello,

    1. I have had breakfast this morning. (still morning)

    2. I had breakfast this morning. (still morning)

    P.S: I had my breakfast and I won't have breakfast one more time.

    My question is that must we use the simple past or present perfect tense while using a time expression such as this morning? Which one is OK?

    Thanks.
    1. I have had breakfast this morning. (still morning)

    2. I had breakfast this morning. Later in the day.

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    Re: past or present tense

    https://www.usingenglish.com/forum/a...sent-perf.html


    -This year, we won the world cup. This is correct.
    -This year, we have won the world cup. This is not so good.*

    Could you please check it out? Teacher Raymott says '
    We don't use the present perfect (a present tense) with an adverbial of past time. "This year" is still happening, but it obviously refers to an event in the past. There are contexts in which the second sentence is possible, but it's not a good template sentence for learning good English''.

    For that reason, why is the sentence ''
    I had breakfast this morning. (still morning)'' not correct although it refers to an event in the past. And as I have said before, I won't eat breakfast again!

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    Re: past or present tense

    Quote Originally Posted by aysaa View Post
    https://www.usingenglish.com/forum/a...sent-perf.html


    -This year, we won the world cup. This is correct.
    -This year, we have won the world cup. This is not so good.*

    Could you please check it out? Teacher Raymott says '
    We don't use the present perfect (a present tense) with an adverbial of past time. "This year" is still happening, but it obviously refers to an event in the past. There are contexts in which the second sentence is possible, but it's not a good template sentence for learning good English''.

    For that reason, why is the sentence ''
    I had breakfast this morning. (still morning)'' not correct although it refers to an event in the past. And as I have said before, I won't eat breakfast again!
    "This year, we have won the world cup."
    ''I had breakfast this morning."
    The first sentence uses the present perfect and the second uses the past simple, so you can't compare them. (I don't much like the first sentence either.)

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    Re: past or present tense

    He said that the first sentence ''-This year, we won the world cup. This is correct.'' is correct, that is, the simple past, not the present perfect, for that reason, I asked you the reason why.

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    Re: past or present tense

    Quote Originally Posted by aysaa View Post
    He said that the first sentence ''-This year, we won the world cup. This is correct.'' is correct, that is, the simple past, not the present perfect, for that reason, I asked you the reason why.
    When I said "the first sentence I meant the first of these two: "This year, we have won the world cup." ''I had breakfast this morning."
    I consider "This year, we have won the world cup." to be, at best, awkward. "I had breakfast this morning" is fine, if said later in the day.

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