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    an Indian wise man

    Is an Indian wise man called guru or saddhu?
    Is there a word for the Indian wise man other than that two?

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    Re: an Indian wise man

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    Quote Originally Posted by joyce6 View Post
    Is an Indian wise man called guru or saddhu?
    I don't know all the ins and outs of these words, but a "guru" is not necessarily a man or Indian. According to this definition it's someone who knows a lot about a particular subject, and gives advice to other people. The second definition is a Hindu religious teacher or leader. My knowledge of religions is very limited, but I assume that everyone can become a Hindu, the person doesn't have to be from India or be of Indian descent.

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    Re: an Indian wise man

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    Re: an Indian wise man

    Hello, joyce6.
    In addition to Chicken Sandwich's explanation, bhaisahab (one of the moderators here) will shed more light on your query.
    I think bhai knows a lot about India.

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    Re: an Indian wise man

    Quote Originally Posted by joyce6 View Post
    Is there a word for the Indian wise man other than that two?
    Hi,

    Here you will find some. Please let us (or at least me) which one you were looking for.

    charliedeut

    PS: As Macmillan is an English, not religious, dictionary, there may be other names related to what you were asking which are not listed there.
    Please be aware that I'm neither a native English speaker nor a teacher.

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    Re: an Indian wise man

    My problem with the original question is that it asks for a different word for an "Indian wise man". The word "guru" covers the "wise man"-part, because I assume that a "wise man" knows a lot about a particular subject, but "guru" doesn't tell us where this wise man is from.
    If I say to someone, 'I saw this guru the other day and he gave me some interesting advice', the person I'm talking to, is not going to know straight away where this guru was from unless I specifically state it, but if I say, 'I saw this Indian wise man the other day and he gave me some interesting advice', they'll know immediately that this wise man was either born in India or from Indian descent.

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    Re: an Indian wise man

    Quote Originally Posted by joyce6 View Post
    Is an Indian wise man called guru or saddhu?
    Is there a word for the Indian wise man other than that two?
    Quote Originally Posted by Chicken Sandwich View Post
    My problem with the original question is that it asks for a different word for an "Indian wise man". The word "guru" covers the "wise man"-part, because I assume that a "wise man" knows a lot about a particular subject, but "guru" doesn't tell us where this wise man is from.
    If I say to someone, 'I saw this guru the other day and he gave me some interesting advice', the person I'm talking to, is not going to know straight away where this guru was from unless I specifically state it, but if I say, 'I saw this Indian wise man the other day and he gave me some interesting advice', they'll know immediately that this wise man was either born in India or from Indian descent.
    Hi Chicken Sandwich,

    I believe the question is clear about the fact that the OP is looking for the word that describes a wise man of the Hindu religion (reinforced by the word 'saddhu'), even if the OP used the ambiguous term 'Indian'.

    Therefore, 'guru' would be applicable here, as defined by Macmillan in the link I provided:

    guru

    noun
    a religious or spiritual leader, especially in Hinduism

    and by the definition od 'sadhu':

    sadhu

    noun
    a Hindu holy man

    So excuse me, but I don't see where your doubt lies.

    charliedeut
    Last edited by Red5; 20-Jun-2017 at 21:40. Reason: Fixed broken links
    Please be aware that I'm neither a native English speaker nor a teacher.

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    Re: an Indian wise man

    Quote Originally Posted by charliedeut View Post

    I believe the question is clear about the fact that the OP is looking for the word that describes a wise man of the Hindu religion (reinforced by the word 'saddhu'), even if the OP used the ambiguous term 'Indian'.
    I see. Well, in that case, I guess that "guru" and "sadhu" could be used in place of "Hindu wise man", though according to the Wikipedia definitions, guru and sadhu are not the same. In other words, it would depend on what kind of "wise man" he is.

    My confusion arose because joyce6 used "Indian" to describe what kind of "wise man" he was.
    Last edited by Chicken Sandwich; 08-Aug-2012 at 18:27.

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    Re: an Indian wise man

    Both "guru" and "sadhu"are Hindi words. The former means "teacher" and the latter "holy man". Most teachers are not holy men, but some holy men are (spiritual) teachers. One cannot become a Hindu unless one is born a Hindu, changes religion and then returns to Hinduism. It is not necessary to be an Indian national to be a Hindu, but you would need to be of (ultimate) Indian descent.

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    Re: an Indian wise man

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    Both "guru" and "sadhu"are Hindi words. The former means "teacher" and the latter "holy man". Most teachers are not holy men, but some holy men are (spiritual) teachers. One cannot become a Hindu unless one is born a Hindu, changes religion and then returns to Hinduism. It is not necessary to be an Indian national to be a Hindu, but you would need to be of (ultimate) Indian descent.
    Thanks for this explanation. I do not know the word Hindu so I meant "Hindu by "Indian".

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