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    Forget and understand

    Hi all,

    I am not sure about the usage of "forget" and "understand".

    If I am asked by someone that "Do you bring your umbrella with you?" I should answer "Ohh, I forgot" instead of using "I forget". Am I right?

    If I am asked "Have you done the homework for me?", I should answer "I understood from Peter that he will do the homework for you", but not "I understand ...", right?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wanka View Post
    Hi all,

    I am not sure about the usage of "forget" and "understand".

    If I am asked by someone that "Did you bring your umbrella with you?" I should answer "Ohh, I forgot" instead of using "I forget". Am I right? Yes.

    If I am asked "Have you done the homework for me?", I should answer "I understood from Peter that he will do the homework for you", but not "I understand ...", right? "I understood from Peter that he would..." or "I understand from Peter that he will..."

    Thanks!
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    Re: Forget and understand

    Thanks for your advice.

    However, I do not understand why the present tense "understand" can be used. If Peter told me yesterday that he would do the homework for the guy I am speaking to, then it means I understood from Peter yesterday that he would do the homework for that guy. So why is that I can say I understand from Peter in the present tense? Thanks!

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    Bhai.

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    Re: Forget and understand

    Quote Originally Posted by wanka View Post
    Thanks for your advice.

    However, I do not understand why the present tense "understand" can be used. If Peter told me yesterday that he would do the homework for the guy I am speaking to, then it means I understood from Peter yesterday that he would do the homework for that guy. So why is that I can say I understand from Peter in the present tense? Thanks!
    Yes, but if the homework is not yet done but Peter has told you he will do it, your current understanding is that Peter will do it.

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    Re: Forget and understand

    Thank you!

    So that means I can say "I understand from Peter yesterday that he will do the homework for you"?

    I do not understand why I cannot use "will" in the sentence "I understood from Peter that he will do the homework for you". As I think the word "would" means you are uncertain whether Peter would do the homework or not.

    Moreover, can I say "I understand from my brother that he is entitled to your goods"? or should I say "I understood from my brother that he was entitled to your goods"? my difficulty here is my brother was and is entitled to your goods. So what should I say? Thanks!




    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    Yes, but if the homework is not yet done but Peter has told you he will do it, your current understanding is that Peter will do it.

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    So that means I can say "I understand from Peter yesterday that he will do the homework for you"?
    That is not very likely, in my opinion. If you are using the word 'yesterday', then you are anchoring your understanding in the past, and are more likely to use 'understood'.
    I do not understand why I cannot use "will" in the sentence "I understood from Peter that he will do the homework for you".
    You can but, once again, it is unlikely. If you have anchored your understanding in the past, then you are likely to backshift the verbs reporting the situation understood.
    As I think the word "would" means you are uncertain whether Peter would do the homework or not.
    No. 'would' is here simply a backshifted form of 'will'.

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    Re: Forget and understand

    Hello,
    Could you tell me what are your thoughts when you first read the sentence?
    I understood from Peter that he will do the homework for you.
    And can you give me one example/situation that the sentence can be used?
    Thank!

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    Re: Forget and understand

    Quote Originally Posted by anhnha View Post
    Hello,
    Could you tell me what are your thoughts when you first read the sentence?
    I understood from Peter that he will do the homework for you.
    And can you give me one example/situation that the sentence can be used?
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    My first thoughts with that statement are:

    1) Peter gave me the information about your homework at some unspecified point in the past ("I understood").
    2) Peter has not yet done your homework ("he will do the homework")
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Any view on the following? Thanks!

    Moreover, can I say "I understand from my brother that he is entitled to your goods"? or should I say "I understood from my brother that he was entitled to your goods"? my difficulty here is my brother was and is entitled to your goods. So what should I say?

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    Re: Forget and understand

    Quote Originally Posted by Jiayun View Post
    Any view on the following? Thanks!

    Moreover, can I say "I understand from my brother that he is entitled to your goods"? or should I say "I understood from my brother that he was entitled to your goods"? my difficulty here is my brother was and is entitled to your goods. So what should I say?
    Both are possible.

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