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  1. The Ria's Avatar
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    Post When I can use Past perfect and past simple

    The education I have at school is very academic, But I can't know when I can use the past simple and the past perfect, I want to know when I use both tenses.

    Sentences for more elaboration:-

    I've bought a new car, you have to come and see it.

    I bought a new car, you have to come and see it.

    Which one is correct in tense?

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    Re: When I can use Past perfect and past simple

    There is no past perfect in your sentences.

    I bought, you came - past simple
    I have bought, you have come - present perfect
    I had bought, you had come - past perfect.

    The sentences themselves are not natural. Why would you tell someone they had come to see your car? They know this.

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    Re: When I can use Past perfect and past simple

    Quote Originally Posted by 5jj View Post
    There is no past perfect in your sentences.

    I bought, you came - past simple
    I have bought, you have come - present perfect
    I had bought, you had come - past perfect.

    The sentences themselves are not natural. Why would you tell someone they had come to see your car? They know this.
    Your two sentences start with the past simple and the present perfect. As 5jj said, neither of them contain the past perfect.

    As a side note to 5jj, the OP said "you have to come and see it" (imperative), not "you have come to see it" which I agree would be an odd thing to tell someone.
    Last edited by emsr2d2; 21-Aug-2012 at 18:37. Reason: Messed up on tenses
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: When I can use Past perfect and past simple

    Sorry, The Ria; I misread your post.
    I've bought a new car, you have to come and see it.

    I bought a new car, you have to come and see it.
    They would be fine with a semi-colon instead of a comma.

    In British English, the first is more likely to be said. The recent purchase of the car is relevant to the present.

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    Re: When I can use Past perfect and past simple

    sorry, It was I had not have.
    And I didn't want any one too see,
    It is in the grammer exercises in our syllabus in Egypt.
    And I didn't find people with this great actknowledge for English but here.
    So I decided to ask about everything I don't know or I am confused in.
    Ria

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    Re: When I can use Past perfect and past simple

    Quote Originally Posted by 5jj View Post
    The sentences themselves are not natural. Why would you tell someone they had come to see your car? They know this.
    Well, it might not be natural in English language, but it is a matter of culture. Such sentences are very frequent here in Serbia because the culture implies it. When we buy something big or valuable, it is normal to ask our neighbors or friends to come and see it. That way we show some kind of respect to them, and we make some feast as well.
    (I suppose it has something to do with Egyptian culture as well.)

    Let's get back to the topic I would say I've bought a new car...

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    I completely agree with you, but not all egyptians are with this backwardness, there are alot ao scintists and surgeons that have other point of views.
    Ria

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    Re: When I can use Past perfect and past simple

    Quote Originally Posted by The Ria View Post
    I completely agree with you, but not all egyptians are with this backwardness, there are alot ao scintists and surgeons that have other point of views.

    Of course there are, as well as in Serbia and other countries. In this case, it doesn't have much to do with educational background, but with the culture and habits people acquired when they were children.

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