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    #1

    Thumbs down which one is correct

    a. I belive him to be honest. b. I belive him honest.

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    #2

    Re: which one is correct

    You could use Option A, although where I'm from we tend to say "I believe he is an honest man" (there are many other options too). Option B is incorrect.
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    Re: which one is correct

    'I believe him (to be) honest?' Would have been a much more useful title for this thread.
    Last edited by Rover_KE; 08-Sep-2012 at 08:06.

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    #4

    Re: which one is correct

    Note the correct spelling of "believe".
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    #5

    Re: which one is correct

    Quote Originally Posted by Babai View Post
    a. I belive him to be honest. b. I belive him honest.
    Both A and B are correct.

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    #6

    Re: which one is correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheer965 View Post
    Both A and B are correct.
    Both are incorrect because "believe" is spelt wrong.

    Leaving aside the spelling of "believe", "I believe him honest" is, at the very least, nonstandard. See p. 515 of Issues in Cognitive Linguistics: 1993 Proceedings of the International Cognitive Linguistics Conference.

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    #7

    Re: which one is correct

    1/ According to Practical English Usage | Oxford University Press, some verbs of thinking and felling such as believe, consider , feel ... can be followed by object + infinitive ( usually to be) in a formal style. However, after believe, consider , find and think , it is often possible to drop to be before adjectives and sometimes ( especially with consider) before noun.
    Examples: I considered him (to be) an excellent choice.
    We found her ( to be) delightful.
    They believe her (to be) reliable.
    2/ According to Oxford advanced Dictionary: [believe + N + ADJ] Three sailors are missing, believed drowned.
    ( extracted from Oxford Advanced Dic.)
    3/ According to Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary: [ believe + object + adjective ] All the crew are missing, believed dead.
    ( extracted from Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary)

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    #8

    Re: which one is correct

    Quote Originally Posted by cheer965 View Post
    1/ According to Practical English Usage | Oxford University Press, some verbs of thinking and felling such as believe, consider , feel ... can be followed by object + infinitive ( usually to be) in a formal style. However, after believe, consider , find and think , it is often possible to drop to be before adjectives and sometimes ( especially with consider) before noun.
    Examples: I considered him (to be) an excellent choice.
    We found her ( to be) delightful.
    They believe her (to be) reliable.
    2/ According to Oxford advanced Dictionary: [believe + N + ADJ] Three sailors are missing, believed drowned.
    ( extracted from Oxford Advanced Dic.)
    3/ According to Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary: [ believe + object + adjective ] All the crew are missing, believed dead.
    ( extracted from Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary)
    "...it is often possible to drop to be before adjectives and sometimes ( especially with consider) before a noun."
    I have marked the key words in red. It doesn't work with "I believe him honest."

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    #9

    Re: which one is correct

    Quote Originally Posted by cheer965 View Post
    1/ According to Practical English Usage | Oxford University Press, some verbs of thinking and felling such as believe, consider , feel ... can be followed by object + infinitive ( usually to be) in a formal style. However, after believe, consider , find and think , it is often possible to drop to be before adjectives and sometimes ( especially with consider) before noun.
    Examples: I considered him (to be) an excellent choice.
    We found her ( to be) delightful.
    They believe her (to be) reliable.
    My third edition does not give the "They believe her (to be) reliable" example; It gives only " They believed her to be reliable" and "They believed that she was reliable". It mentions the dropping of 'to be' after only 'consider'. Which edition are you quoting?
    2/ According to Oxford advanced Dictionary: [believe + N + ADJ] Three sailors are missing, believed drowned.
    ( extracted from Oxford Advanced Dic.)
    3/ According to Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary: [ believe + object + adjective ] All the crew are missing, believed dead.
    ( extracted from Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary)
    Fine, but your examples #2 and #3 are rather different from the sentence we started with.

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