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    been known vs is known

    If I said that somebody has been known to be a great public speaker, I would be refering to him being a great speaker in the past up to the moment of speaking, whereas someone is known to be a great speaker would mean at the moment of speaking?

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    Re: been known vs is known

    In this case, if you said "John Smith has been known to be a great public speaker" I would think that you meant that he had occasionally spoken very well in public but that he had also given some terrible speeches.

    - Do you eat spinach?
    - I have been known to. (I've done it but I don't do it on a regular basis.)

    - Is your boss generous with pay rises?
    - He has been known to be, although he has never given me a particularly good rise.

    - Is your dog very aggressive?
    - He has been known to be, but normally he is very sweet.

    If someone has historically always been a great public speaker, there is no reason to believe that that is any different today, so I would say "John Smith is known to be a great public speaker".
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: been known vs is known

    What about "English has been known to be a universal language."? What difference would it make if I changed it to "English is known to be......"?

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    Re: been known vs is known

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    What about "English has been known to be a universal language."? What difference would it make if I changed it to "English is known to be......"?
    I wouldn't recommend using either of them.

    English is said to be a universal language.
    English is considered [to be] a universal language.
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    Re: been known vs is known

    OK. "English has been regarded to....." and "....is regarded to........."?

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    Re: been known vs is known

    Quote Originally Posted by ostap77 View Post
    OK. "English has been regarded to....." and "....is regarded to........."?
    Neither of them. emsr2d2 has given you two good alternatives.

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    Re: been known vs is known

    Quote Originally Posted by ostap77 View Post
    OK. "English has been regarded to....." and "....is regarded to........."?
    No. If you are going to use "regarded", I would follow it with "as".

    English is regarded as a universal language.
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    Re: been known vs is known

    Sorry. I was going to ask you if there would be the same difference in meaning between "English has been considered........" and ".......is considered....." as between"has been known and "is known"?

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