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    present perfect x pas simple

    I (order) some things on the internet and I'm waiting for them to come.

    Is the present perfect simple correct here? Could we use the past simple as well?

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    Re: present perfect x pas simple

    'I ordered/have ordered some things on the internet. . . .' are both correct.

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    Re: present perfect x pas simple

    Thank you, I thought that as well BUT my teacher (I know it's pathetic to repeat it again and again ) says that because the action hasn't finished yet i.e. that we are still waiting for the things as implied in the second clause, we must use the present perfect. I find his reason for that sort of cumbersome and vague. What is the reason against the statement that only the present perfect simple works here?
    Last edited by tom3m; 19-Sep-2012 at 18:25. Reason: logic

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    Re: present perfect x pas simple

    Quote Originally Posted by tom3m View Post
    Thank you, I thought that as well BUT my teacher (I know it's pathetic to repeat it again and again ) says that because the action hasn't finished yet i.e. that we are still waiting for the things as implied in the second clause, we must use the present perfect. I find his reason for that sort of cumbersome and vague. What is the reason against the statement that only the present perfect simple works here?
    "What is the reason against the statement that only the present perfect simple." What are you trying to say here? This doesn't make any sense.

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    Re: present perfect x pas simple

    I got tangled up in it and I am sorry. Just want to know the explanation why both are correct and not only the present perfect simple.

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    Re: present perfect x pas simple

    Quote Originally Posted by tom3m View Post
    I got tangled up in it and I am sorry. Just want to know the explanation why both are correct and not only the present perfect simple.
    Both are very widely used. I would use the the present perfect mostly.

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    Re: present perfect x pas simple

    Quote Originally Posted by tom3m View Post
    I got tangled up in it and I am sorry. Just want to know the explanation why both are correct and not only the present perfect simple.
    NOT A TEACHER

    Raymond Murphy writes in English Grammar in Use on p. 26:

    You can use the present perect for new or recent happenings:
    'I've repaired the washing machine. It's working OK now.' 'Oh, that's good.'
    'Sally has had a baby! It's a boy.' 'That's great news.'

    Usually, you can also use the past simple:
    I repaired the washing mashine. It's working OK now.

    Use the past simple (not the present perfect) for things that are not recent or new:
    Mozart was a composer. He wrote more than 600 pieces of music.
    My mother grew up in Italy.
    Last edited by Chicken Sandwich; 19-Sep-2012 at 19:35. Reason: I forgot something.

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