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    #1

    Comma faulty

    The report said that years ago city planners
    had envisioned building a facility that turns salt
    water into fresh water, and financial woes
    make that impossible.
    (A) water, and financial woes make that
    impossible
    (B) water, and that is becoming impossible due
    to financial woes
    (C) water, but that it will have been made
    impossible by financial woes
    (D) water, but financial woes made that
    impossible
    (E) water, however, financial woes had made it
    impossible


    Hello; sounds letter e is correct, but my book says it ''contains a comma splice between
    water and however.''. But they are independent clauses, and the same book says a little above ''A run-on sentence consists of two independent
    clauses separated by neither a conjunction (and,
    but, or, nor, yet,or so) nor an appropriate mark of pontuation:

    ''The campers hated the taste of powdered milk
    they drank water instead. ''
    (E) milk so they drank

    ''Choice E lacks the comma required before the
    conjunction so.''

    If I put a semicolon before ''however'' in the earlier sentence, won't it bring out a falty between two independent clause as I chose using a conjunction rather than a solo semicolon?

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    Re: Comma faulty

    "The report said that years ago city planners had envisioned building a facility that turns salt water into fresh water, but financial woes
    made that impossible."

    I would write it like that.

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    #3

    Re: Comma faulty

    A comma splice is sometimes called a run-on sentence. "However" cannot grammatically server as the conjunction between two independent clauses. (I have also heard "run-on" sentence used to describe a grammatically correct sentence that is so long with so many parts that it just runs on and on. I don't agree with this use, but it's still out there.)

    Yes, if you had "... into fresh water; however, financial woes..." then you would be okay.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: Comma faulty

    Hi Barb. But ''‘However’ indicates that the relationship between the two independent clauses is one
    of contrast or opposition. ''. So wouldn't be incorrect to put a semicolon before this conjunction? Otherwise, ''The report said that years ago city planners had envisioned building a facility that turns salt water into fresh water; but financial woes
    made that impossible."
    would be equally correct... Thank you

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    #5

    Re: Comma faulty

    "But" is one of the FANBOYS conjunctions: For, and, nor, but, or, yet, and so. They can grammatically join independent clauses into one sentence.

    I opened the window. I jumped out. --> I opened the window, and I jumped out.
    I wanted to do it. I did it. --> I wanted to do it, so I did it.
    Planners wanted to turn salt water into fresh water. Financial woes made it impossible. --> They wanted to... water, but financial woes made it impossible.

    "However" cannot grammatically join two independent clauses into one sentence. Yes, it shows contrast, but it can't serve as a coordinating conjunction. Only the FANBOYS can do that.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    #6

    Re: Comma faulty

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    Only the FANBOYS can do that.
    This looks like a line from a super-heroes comic book! I can imagine a big "F" projected against a cloudy sky!
    Please be aware that I'm neither a native English speaker nor a teacher.

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    #7

    Re: Comma faulty

    And "Subordinating Conjunction" is fated to live life as a side-kick!
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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