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    #1

    need to have been

    "You need to have been living in Ukraine for 5 years to become a Ukraine national." How would you interpret this sentence? If were giving advice or talking about immigration formalities, I would say it refers to becoming a Ukraine citizen in the future after a person has lived in Ukraine for 5 years. I wonder if it could refer to a person who's already become a Ukraine national?
    Last edited by ostap77; 13-Oct-2012 at 12:13.

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    #2

    Re: need to have been

    "If I were giving advice or talking about immigration formalities, I would say it refers to becoming a Ukraine citizen in the future after a person has lived in Ukraine for 5 years."
    I agree with you on that.
    However, in discussing someone who has already become a Ukraine national, then you would put it as "He had to have been living in (the) Ukraine for 5 years before becoming a Ukraine national", or "He had to have lived..."
    I'm not a teacher of English, but I have spoken it for (almost) all of my life....

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    #3

    Re: need to have been

    Or he could probably say "I needed to have........" What do you think?
    Last edited by ostap77; 13-Oct-2012 at 18:51.

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    #4

    Re: need to have been

    Correct. "You need to..." refers to a future action. To describe the past, either "I needed to..." or "I had to..."

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    #5

    Re: need to have been

    Would this grammatical construction be more typical of AmE? Or is it both AmE and BrE?
    Last edited by ostap77; 17-Oct-2012 at 20:06.

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    #6

    Re: need to have been

    I would kindly ask you to give me an answer. I need to include in my semestrial research paper.

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    #7

    Re: need to have been

    It's OK in BE.

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    #8

    Re: need to have been

    Could I get an answer on the American part?
    Last edited by ostap77; 22-Oct-2012 at 09:31.

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    #9

    Re: need to have been

    Since there hasn't been any answer on the American part, it wouldn't be as frequently used in AmE as in BE?

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    #10

    Re: need to have been

    Quote Originally Posted by ostap77 View Post
    Since there hasn't been any answer on the American part, it wouldn't be as frequently used in AmE as in BE?
    Don't assume that. Wait for an American.

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