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    Conditional - polite request ... if you have (or had) time for a coffee?

    Hello

    What I know about conditional 1 and 2 is:
    Conditional 1 - weather forecast for tomorrow: sunny - If the weather is fine, I will go for a walk.
    Conditional 2 - weather forecast for tomorrow: poor - If the weather was fine, I would go for a walk.

    What about a polite request:
    I would like to ask you if you have (or had?) time for a coffee.


    Thank you very much!
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    Last edited by the-good-guy; 31-Oct-2012 at 16:53. Reason: it is conditional 1 and 2 (not 2 and 3), sorry

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    Re: Conditional - polite request ... if you have (or had) time for a coffee?

    Quote Originally Posted by the-good-guy View Post
    Hello

    What I know about conditional 2 and 3 is:
    Conditional 2 - weather forecast: sunny - If the weather is fine, I will go for a walk.
    This is a comment on your future plans

    Conditional 3 - weather forecast: poor - If the weather was fine, I would go for a walk.
    This is a comment of what you did in the past.

    What about a polite request:
    I would like to ask you if you have (or had?) time for a coffee.
    I would like to ask if you have time for coffee - Present - Do you have time now?
    I would like to ask if you had time for coffee - A question about past events.


    Thank you very much!
    Best regards
    Gil

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    Re: Conditional - polite request ... if you have (or had) time for a coffee?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gillnetter View Post
    Gil
    I heard that is more polite to ask:
    "I would like to ask if you had time for a coffee."

    Do you agree? Thank you

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    Re: Conditional - polite request ... if you have (or had) time for a coffee?

    Quote Originally Posted by the-good-guy View Post
    I heard that is more polite to ask:
    "I would like to ask if you had time for a coffee."

    Do you agree?
    It's over-polite to the point of obsequiousness.

    'Have you time for a coffee?' is polite enough for anybody.

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    #5

    Re: Conditional - polite request ... if you have (or had) time for a coffee?

    Thank you,
    'Have you time for a coffee?' is polite enough for anybody.
    How about "Do you time for a coffee?"?
    Is it polite as the above?

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    Re: Conditional - polite request ... if you have (or had) time for a coffee?

    Quote Originally Posted by the-good-guy View Post
    Conditional 2 - weather forecast for tomorrow: poor - If the weather was fine, I would go for a walk.
    ***** NOT A TEACHER *****


    Hello,

    You have already received an excellent reply from a teacher, so you should accept his answer

    I -- just an ordinary native speaker -- have another opinion (only an opinion):

    1. The weather forecast for tomorrow is poor. So you are not going to go for a walk.

    I believe that either sentence is correct:

    a. If the weather was fine tomorrow [we know that it will not be], I would go for a walk. But since the

    weather will be "poor" tomorrow, I will not go for a walk.

    b. If the weather were fine tomorrow, I would go for a walk.

    NOTES:

    * I believe that many native speakers would say "a."

    * Americans who try to speak "correct" English prefer "b" -- the so-called subjunctive.

    Tom: Are you going for your usual walk tomorrow?

    Mona: No.

    Tom: Why not?

    Mona: The weather will be poor tomorrow.

    Tom: So?

    Mona: Well, if the weather was / were fine tomorrow, I would go for my usual walk. But since the weather

    is going to be poor, I have no intention of going out and possibly getting caught in a downpour [of rain].


    James


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    Re: Conditional - polite request ... if you have (or had) time for a coffee?

    ***** NOT A TEACHER *****


    Hello,

    You accidentally forgot the verb "have":

    Do you have time for a coffee?

    !. I believe that our British friends use "have" to start such questions.

    2. Americans feel more comfortable with "do."

    Tom: Have you a car?
    Mona: No, I haven't.

    Maria: Do you have a car?
    George: No, I don't.


    James

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    Re: Conditional - polite request ... if you have (or had) time for a coffee?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheParser View Post
    I believe that our British friends use "have" to start such questions.
    Have you got ...is more common these days.

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    #9

    Re: Conditional - polite request ... if you have (or had) time for a coffee?

    I am a BrE speaker, and I would not say "Have you a car?" unless I were pretending to be a rather posh person from about 60 years ago.

    I would use either:

    Do you have a car?
    or
    Have you got a car?

    I agree with the others that "I would like to ask you if you had/have time for a coffee" is overly complicated. Apart from anything else, if someone said that to me, I might sarcastically reply "OK. Go on then. Ask me if I have time for a coffee!" All you have said is that you would like to ask me a question. Technically, you haven't actually asked me if I have time for a coffee.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: Conditional - polite request ... if you have (or had) time for a coffee?

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    I am a BrE speaker, and I would not say "Have you a car?" unless I were pretending to be a rather posh person from about 60 years ago.
    Or a 66-year-old non-posh person who is past his prime.

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