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    Caesar

    Matthew 22
    17 Now tell us what you think about this: Is it right to pay taxes to Caesar or not?"


    In my mother tongue, Arabic, the proper way to pronounce Caesar is/keɪsər/although the s sound doesn't exist in Arabic when it comes to the word Caesar. We have another sound but I failed to transcript it. Also, that pronunciation is mainstream among Arabs. However, in English it seems different. Is the below pronunciation for the word Caesar correct?
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    /seɪzər/

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    Note: I think that the right/exact symbol in AmE for BrE /ər/ is approximate retroflex /ɚ/.

    More: Approximant consonant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    P.S.: I am accustomed to pronouncing c as k unless it is followed by either e-century, i-cigarette, or y-cycle.


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    Re: Caesar

    The normal BrE pronunciation/transcription is /ˈsiːzə(r)/. The /r/ in brackets tells us that this phoneme is normally pronounced only when foll0wed by a vowel.

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    Re: Caesar

    Though as any avid follower of QI will know, the letter C was not pronounced "s" in Latin (or in modern Italian). Caesar would originally have been pronounced "K-eye-zer" and is the basis for the word "kaiser".
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: Caesar

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    Though as any avid follower of QI will know, the letter C was not pronounced "s" in Latin (or in modern Italian). Caesar would originally have been pronounced "K-eye-zer" and is the basis for the word "kaiser".
    Hmm. My lip always curls when Steven Fry says that - which he does rather too frequently for my taste. Inscriptions at Pompeii (graffiti) show that - as is suggested by modern Italian - spoken latin, even in classical times, used [s] most of the time. The [k] pronunciation was used only in very formal use.

    I am likewise an avid watcher of QI, but rather share the dubiety expressed by Ben Goldacre (who, perhaps unsurprisingly, hasn't been asked back - or perhaps has turned down invitations), who said words to the effect of 'The trouble [BK unquestioning acceptance of popular 'authority'] is TV shows like this.'

    But this is some way from the OP - which has already been answered satisfactorily.

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