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    "... had us memorize ..." = (more common in American English)

    poem about grammar
    Back in the mid-sixties, my English teacher had us memorize a poem about grammar that began: All names of persons, places, things are nouns as Caesar, Rome and kings.......I would like to know who wrote it and where I could find a copy of it.



    We can use have someone do something to talk about giving instructions or orders (more common in American English).

    • I had my assistant type the report.
    • I'll have my lawyer look into it.

    More: English grammar - Causative


    The rule here says that we can use (Had+ object + infinitive) which is more common in AmE, according to this site. I understand from this that the base form after object is less common in BrE. As a result, in BrE we can use (Had + object +past participle) when it comes to orders.

    Example in BrE:

    Our English teacher had us memorized a poem. Am I right?


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    Re: "... had us memorize ..." = (more common in American English)

    ***** NOT A TEACHER *****

    Quote Originally Posted by Odessa Dawn View Post
    Our English teacher had us memorized a poem. Am I right?
    No. This sentence doesn't work.

    Quote Originally Posted by Odessa Dawn View Post
    As a result, in BrE we can use (Had + object +past participle) when it comes to orders.
    How did you arrive at this conclusion?

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    Re: "... had us memorize ..." = (more common in American English)

    No. The difference with BrE is nothing to do with changing the tense of the word "memorise". It's the fact that we don't use "to have someone do something".

    Our English teacher made us memorise a poem.
    Our English teacher gave us a poem to memorise.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: "... had us memorize ..." = (more common in American English)

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    No. The difference with BrE is nothing to do with changing the tense of the word "memorise". It's the fact that we don't use "to have someone do something".
    Some of us do.

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    Re: "... had us memorize ..." = (more common in American English)



    Quote Originally Posted by Chicken Sandwich View Post

    How did you arrive at this conclusion?
    The word more made me reach that conclusion. As to me, when I see the word more it means that I have the word less on the other side. However, I will listen to your opinion not mine. Again, I will put my version aside. Thank you so very much for taking your precious time out helping others learn English.


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