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    Smile How to use 'yet' = (and) despite that.

    hello everyone,

    I would like to know something about 'yet' as 'despite that'.

    1- is it an BrE word?
    2-How can I use it and can I use it like in that sentence?

    "Scientists do capture animals in zoos for their sake (and) yet no matter how well animals are being treated they are still deprived of their natural habitat"

    Or like that, between two words?

    The computer is simple (and) yet effective.


    PS: i know that And is optional. I want to get to know how to use "YET" not Despite. Thanks in advance.
    Last edited by saloom2; 17-Mar-2013 at 20:13.
    I wish I had better English, but I work hard to improve it. I'm studying for IGCSE, so I'm only interested in BrE.

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    Re: How to use 'yet' = (and) despite that.

    Both 'yet' and 'despite' are Br Eng words. 'Despite that' is very uncommon; 'despite' is usually followed by a noun, noun phrase, or gerund:

    Examples:

    Despite his age...
    Despite the disadvantage of <noun>...
    Despite being tired...
    Despite the fact that he was tired...


    Occcasionally - but I think unwisely - the 'the fact' is omitted from the last one, which leaves a fairly intelligible 'despite that'. I get the impression that 'despite that' is more common in Am Eng, but I'll leave that to the local experts. (Whenever someone says this sort of 'despite that' I ask myself 'What's wrong with "although"?'

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    Re: How to use 'yet' = (and) despite that.

    Well, I didn't mean how to use Despite, but how to use Yet as despite role since 'yet' has many usages, like an time adverb 'Until now' . So do my examples sound natural and my questions, too, or they are wrong? I can use Despite and Although proficiently, though. the problem here is with YET.
    I wish I had better English, but I work hard to improve it. I'm studying for IGCSE, so I'm only interested in BrE.

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    Re: How to use 'yet' = (and) despite that.

    People, I do really need how to use 'yet'? Any help, please?
    I wish I had better English, but I work hard to improve it. I'm studying for IGCSE, so I'm only interested in BrE.

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    Re: How to use 'yet' = (and) despite that.

    It's Sunday morning and yet the student is still impatient for an answer.

    The two examples of "yet" in your original post are correct.

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    Re: How to use 'yet' = (and) despite that.

    There was less than 12 hours between your last two posts. People contribute to this forum voluntarily.
    Quote Originally Posted by saloom2 View Post
    hello everyone,

    I would like to know somethings ['some things' does not equal 'something'] about 'yet' as 'despite that'. You claim to know how to use 'despite that'. It would be a good idea if you practised a modicum of humility and took my advice into account.

    1- is it an BrE word?
    2-How can I use it and can I use it like in that sentence? No idea what this means.

    "Scientists do (unnecessary in most contexts) capture animals in zoos for their sake (and) yet no matter how well animals are being treated they are still deprived of their natural habitat"

    Or like that, between two words?

    The computer is simple (and) yet effective.


    PS: Ii know that And is optional. I want to get to know how to use "YET" not Despite. Thanks in advance.
    Your uses of 'yet' are OK, but the one in the first sentence doesn't make much sense because of the ambiguity of 'for their sake'.

    If you want more advice WAIT Some other teacher may choose to ignore your impatience.

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    Re: How to use 'yet' = (and) despite that.

    Well, thanks all a lot and I do take your advice, indeed, into account. Who said I didn't?? They are really useful and thanks again. I think I will wait too see if there is any more illustration of the subject as well.
    I wish I had better English, but I work hard to improve it. I'm studying for IGCSE, so I'm only interested in BrE.

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    Re: How to use 'yet' = (and) despite that.

    Quote Originally Posted by saloom2 View Post
    I think I will wait too see if there is any more illustration of the subject as well.
    The computer is simple (and) yet effective.
    It's Sunday morning and yet the student is still impatient for an answer.

    You've had a couple of examples (above) and yet you're still not satisfied.
    This is fairly straightforward, yet you want more examples.

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    Re: How to use 'yet' = (and) despite that.

    It seems to me i will never forget how to use 'yet' after those examples! Thanks alooot! But does "And" here not optional? It's Sunday morning and yet the student is still impatient for an answer.
    I wish I had better English, but I work hard to improve it. I'm studying for IGCSE, so I'm only interested in BrE.

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    Re: How to use 'yet' = (and) despite that.

    Quote Originally Posted by saloom2 View Post
    It seems to me i will never forget how to use 'yet' after those examples! Thanks alooot! But does "And" here not optional? It's Sunday morning and yet the student is still impatient for an answer.
    Yes the "and" is optional.

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