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    Number


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    nicolas Guest
    Dear All,

    I chose "are".


    Why do others choose "is"?
    Could someone explain that for me? :wink:

    The advanced area here is difficult for me :(

    Have a nice day :D

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    'The number' is treated as a grammatically singular despite the plural noun coming after it. It is one of those tricky things that gets tested in advanced exams.

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    nicolas Guest
    Dear tdol,

    Quote Originally Posted by tdol
    'The number' is treated as a grammatically singular despite the plural noun coming after it. It is one of those tricky things that gets tested in advanced exams.
    Thanks!
    I think you're right (of course :wink: ):D

    There are five students and then it becomes eight.
    so we use "is".

    Thanks tdol ! :D
    Today I learned one more thing :D

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    A think it's the marker the that makes the difference there. What do you think, Tdol?

    :D

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    dodgerfan2002 Guest

    Re: Number

    the number = singular
    a number = plural

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    Re: Number

    Quote Originally Posted by dodgerfan2002
    the number = singular
    a number = plural
    yeah, the phrase a number of... means several or many (it depends). So it calls for a plural verb.
    The number of, on the other hand, is treated as a noun phrase in which number is a noun. Hence, it needs a singular verb.

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    Re: Number

    I am clever... I chose is because the number is singular and is did not refer to the noun students.

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    Re: Number

    Well spotted.

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    Re: Number

    Quote Originally Posted by nicolas
    Dear All,

    I chose "are".


    Why do others choose "is"?
    Could someone explain that for me? :wink:

    The advanced area here is difficult for me :(

    Have a nice day :D
    You should take into consideration "the number of...." ,not the "students"
    so, you have "The number of... is...

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